Thanks. I hadnt really thought about that. Years ago i showed up to alligator before they moved and was backing the boat down the ramp in the dark when something just didnt feel right so i go out and threw a rock at the water and it just skid across the lake. The whole marina was in ice. It was crazy all the way out to that shallow point. We ended up docking the boat at the other alligator and sleeping on the houseboat at the alligator ice marina. I always get confused which was 1 & 2. It was neat but kind of scary to walk the dock. Anyway thx. I just hope to catch fish and get my buddy a few picks to show off.