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    Quote Originally Posted by dragmerc View Post
    is the opposition to trump or biden based on their policies or personal life?
    which should we base our vote on?
    jimmy carter was a good feller but as a president...not too good.
    he came and sat down just behind me at the bassmaster classic in chattanooga.
    i believe he would have talked to me but the secret service guys scared me.
    i was afraid to take up a conversation.
    back to the subject, regardless of their policies or anything else, i made a promise this year that i would not vote for a career politician in either party.
    very good question, and I will answer as honestly as I can. I will "probably" vote for Trump based ONLY on his policies (though a couple have fallen short of what I expected, but still better than nothing). as a person I think the guy is a total scum bag, his history is wrought with treacherous acts against other Americans, refusal to pay contractors forcing them in to bankruptcy, tax evasion (he himself admitted he wasn't about to pay any tax that he could avoid paying), his draft dodging really chaps me especially when he criticizes or attacks a veteran about their service questioning their patriotism or sacrifice, a right he never earned.
    and before anyone bashes me with the old "well they all do it" ...I will give you that one, but that doesn't justify it and it certainly doesn't excuse him from it.
    the tax overhaul has cost me and my wife dearly , we pay exactly what we are scheduled to pay through the year and still had to pay $7300 federal at the end of the year. so the "tax break" was nothing more than a "tax delay" for us.
    but I'm not really complaining about this as we are able to pay it either through the year or at the end of the year it doesn't make much difference. just don't beat your chest and tell me how you've helped me so much by lowering my taxes, its car salesman talk.
    the other thing that confuses me is this, if you were campaigning and needed every vote you could muster, wouldn't it make sense to convince and convert the democrats that might be swayed??
    look at it this way, if I'm an old south conservative Democrat (blue john) farmer that has been a Democrat for 70 years who is now enjoying the fruits of Trump policies and i decide i will vote candidate versus party . but then Trump goes on tv and says he just signed an executive order that all grain farmers will receive a huge tax exemption for the next 4 years, but democrats don't want you to get this tax exemption, all democrats want Mexicans to come across the border and kill all your children and rape your wife and steal your jobs.
    you just alienated a swing vote...NEEDLESSLY.
    ok so its red meat for the base, hell the base doesn't need red meat, the base aint going nowhere.
    but these are just my opinions and thoughts, they might conflict with how others feel, that's why we vote .
    p.s. a conservative Democrat is pro gun, anti abortion, pro LEGAL immigration. I also feel if you don't work you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
    hmmm...maybe we're not so different after all.

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    and I'm not talking about retired or actually not able to work.
    I'm saying obesity, drug or alcohol addiction, and just being a deadbeat

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    where in the hell is Tim? he's late and thats just not like him

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    Quote Originally Posted by stripernut1 View Post
    very good question, and I will answer as honestly as I can. I will "probably" vote for Trump based ONLY on his policies (though a couple have fallen short of what I expected, but still better than nothing).
    You will vote for President Trump because I told you to. I delivered FACTS (unlike your crazy tax BS), President Trump doesn’t play race baiting politics, wants America to lead the free world, believes in the Constitution that Marines and Militia delivered, Anti abortion, 2nd Amendment guarantees our GOD given rights, and capitalism is the cornerstone of freedom.

    I’m not sure what that other guy believes, depends on which way wind is blowing. “Wash your hands” is cutting edge for that campaign, I expect they will introduce social distancing theory during convention.

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    if you are pro trump you should not be allowed to vote!

    Quote Originally Posted by stripernut1 View Post
    very good question, and I will answer as honestly as I can. I will "probably" vote for Trump based ONLY on his policies (though a couple have fallen short of what I expected, but still better than nothing). as a person I think the guy is a total scum bag, his history is wrought with treacherous acts against other Americans, refusal to pay contractors forcing them in to bankruptcy, tax evasion (he himself admitted he wasn't about to pay any tax that he could avoid paying), his draft dodging really chaps me especially when he criticizes or attacks a veteran about their service questioning their patriotism or sacrifice, a right he never earned.
    and before anyone bashes me with the old "well they all do it" ...I will give you that one, but that doesn't justify it and it certainly doesn't excuse him from it.
    the tax overhaul has cost me and my wife dearly , we pay exactly what we are scheduled to pay through the year and still had to pay $7300 federal at the end of the year. so the "tax break" was nothing more than a "tax delay" for us.
    but I'm not really complaining about this as we are able to pay it either through the year or at the end of the year it doesn't make much difference. just don't beat your chest and tell me how you've helped me so much by lowering my taxes, its car salesman talk.
    the other thing that confuses me is this, if you were campaigning and needed every vote you could muster, wouldn't it make sense to convince and convert the democrats that might be swayed??
    look at it this way, if I'm an old south conservative Democrat (blue john) farmer that has been a Democrat for 70 years who is now enjoying the fruits of Trump policies and i decide i will vote candidate versus party . but then Trump goes on tv and says he just signed an executive order that all grain farmers will receive a huge tax exemption for the next 4 years, but democrats don't want you to get this tax exemption, all democrats want Mexicans to come across the border and kill all your children and rape your wife and steal your jobs.
    you just alienated a swing vote...NEEDLESSLY.
    ok so its red meat for the base, hell the base doesn't need red meat, the base aint going nowhere.
    but these are just my opinions and thoughts, they might conflict with how others feel, that's why we vote .
    p.s. a conservative Democrat is pro gun, anti abortion, pro LEGAL immigration. I also feel if you don't work you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
    hmmm...maybe we're not so different after all.
    Pro Trump don't vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    Pro Trump don't vote.
    Does it really matter in Ky? President Trump wins this state by 40-45%. You should be carrying water for boy wonder buttsmear.
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    Trump will lose no matter what happens in KY

    Quote Originally Posted by TimE View Post
    Does it really matter in Ky? President Trump wins this state by 40-45%. You should be carrying water for boy wonder buttsmear.
    Fool! Twinkle Toes TinE looks in the mirror and see the water boy. ha ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    Fool! Twinkle Toes TinE looks in the mirror and see the water boy. ha ha.
    What tax bracket are you in? Just trying to understand your mindset without making assumptions.
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    The good news? President Trump announced today he would run for a third term since the first one was hampered by deep state swamp rats that ran a failed criminal coup attempt. We are all fortunate to have a once in century leader like President Trump. Gonna be fun to watch the criminals cut deals to sing like a bird to Barr and Durham investigation.

    October surprise? nancy better get busy because her $20 ice cream bar eating self is about to be kicked out of leadership. Who would have thought a san fran liberal would be such a failure? Lol
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    Work time vampires, I get it.

    It is absolutely amazing the amount of Trump flags on the water. Lost count on Cumberland over the weekend. Green is close also. I’m talking from houseboats, 40’ speedsters, bass boats, and aluminum rigs. I expect to see more and more as the Trump Train picks up steam. I figure the stripper boats will catch on soon if they want to keep their business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimE View Post
    Work time vampires, I get it.

    It is absolutely amazing the amount of Trump flags on the water. Lost count on Cumberland over the weekend. Green is close also. I’m talking from houseboats, 40’ speedsters, bass boats, and aluminum rigs. I expect to see more and more as the Trump Train picks up steam. I figure the stripper boats will catch on soon if they want to keep their business.
    I've already got a trump flag on my boat, its what I use to dry the pee-pee bucket
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    Quote Originally Posted by stripernut1 View Post
    I've already got a trump flag on my boat
    I figured you did. Yet to see a basement dweller 2020 flag though. Haven’t seen any blm/antifa terrorist flags either.

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