Reply With QuoteEVERYONE MUST WEAR A MASK 100% of the time AND keep their distance for it to work. If you are inside then it's harder to keep your distance. And inside the ventilation is not always best.Originally Posted by dragmerc
Now your buddy may have got the virus by touching a contaminated surface and then touching his mouth or nose later.
Also, the masks vary in quality and fit. You MUST have a fit test to make sure that the mask doesn't leak. Wearing a loose fitting mask can allow outside air to pass around the loose-fitting edges and not get filtered. So the masks must not leak or they won't work properly. The air you breathe must pass through the mask filter material in order to filter out the virus.
1)Filtering incoming air
And the filter capacity of masks vary. These viruses are tiny (around 0.1 microns in size) and can pass through masks with larger pore sizes (Greater than 1 micron in size). IE masks that are made out of paper with larger pores can allow the virus to be inhaled in smaller quantities than if you were not wearing a mask at all. There are differences in masks too. Lots of variables to consider. The type of material the mask is made from. Paper, Cotton, Silk, Polypropolene or nylon, etc. Each material can vary in thread count and thread size too. This is why the US Government has standards to follow. NIOSH is one government agency that sets standards for respirator and mask filters. N-95 is a NIOSH standard. The companies that make masks need Government approval from the NIOSH before they can legally label a mask as meeting the N-95 standard. Some mask makers don't meet the N-95 Government NIOSH standard and still label them masks as KN-95. But these KN-95 masks don't meet the NIOSH standard for N-95 masks. Cotton masks can be single-layered or multilayers. Multilayers with high thread count and small pore sizes are better than just plain paper disposable masks or single layer cotton mask.
2) Filtering outgoing air from an already infected person.
Now when it comes to protecting other people in a room from the spit of an infected person it's imperative that the infected person wear a mask to stop the spread of the virus in large quantities from leaving the infected person's mouth and nose etc. And this is especially important when they are in a room with other people. Remember that infected people vary in their viral loads. The virus gets into the body and then enters a human cell and takes over the cell's ribosomes protein production. The virus is a messenger RNA particle that gives instructions to the Ribosome on what proteins to make. So the ribosome starts making viruses instead of proteins. When the number of viruses inside the cell gets too large the cell ruptures and releases the virus back into the bloodstream. There these viruses go attack other cells and repeat the process. But this happens in geometric vs arithmetic progression. Everyone is different as we have different DNA and blood types etc. But basically, there is an incubation period where the virus multiplies inside the body to larger numbers. We start shedding virus particles after a while. The density of the virus in each person can vary. People also have different immune systems where we have antibodies, White Blood Cells, and other defenses that can attack viruses or other foreign particles that don't belong in the body. And each person's immune response can vary. So each person's infection can vary and they may start shedding various amounts of virus particles over time. And the time varies. The incubation period before symptoms can vary too. Some people don't get sick or show symptoms but can still be infected and shed viruses and infect other people or animals. This is what makes this virus so bad. It's highly infectious. It may not kill you but it can spread through you to others that are more vulnerble. And people can die because you got infected and helped the virus spread to the more vulnerable.
Now that you understand more of the problem I hope you see why it's important for EVERYONE to wear a mask. The reason is that we don't know if we are infected or who is infected unless we test them a lot and that's impossible. People who are infected may not know it and we can't tell them apart from others who are not infected. This is why its so important for EVERYONE to wear a mask so that even those that are asymptomatic and infected must wear a mask to keep others around them from getting infected. It's not perfect so it's also important to keep a safe distance.
Now back to wearing a mask to stop the outflow of virus particles. Wearing a paper mask or a cloth mask helps reduce the number of virus particles coming out of an infected person's mouth and nose. When we reduce the number of viruses coming out of infected people's mouths and noses we reduce the viral load that could infect others in a room with the person. That is where ventilation comes into the picture as well as social distancing. Look in the FISHIN.COM Photo section and study the pictures of the masks that I posted. Notice the one where is shows the size of the droplets of water coming out of the mouth/nose when someone coughs or sneezes with and without a mask on. The larger drops tend to fall down to the ground before the smaller drops. The larger drops contain more virus particles than the smaller ones. So wearing a mask reduced the number and size of emissions. And keeping a distance helps reduce possible exposure to large viral loads of the virus.
So the bottom line is to follow Fauci's guidance and wear a mask and keep a safe distance ( 6ft or greater) from others and wash your hands often to reduce the spread of the virus. It's not 100% effective for many reasons but it's not because masks don't work. They work when you wear the proper fitting mask with the right filter capacity and when you keep a safe distance from an infected person. You must also wash your hands and be careful to not contaminate the mask or your face and nose with the virus on your hands. You also must be careful how you remove a mask. Grab the mask by the elastic straps that wrap around your ears, not the mask itself. Wear a new paper mask and throw the old masks away after you wear them. Wash and disinfect cloth masks often with bleach and soap. You must take care of your masks and respirators.
And if possible avoid large crowds of people. You just don't know who is infected and who is not. So I treat everyone that I meet as being infected and act accordingly. I keep my distance from them and make them wear a mask if they come into my house.
The nursing homes and hospitals require people to be tested twice with 24 hours in between the two tests. They keep new people coming into the home or hospital in quarantine areas until they pass a test two times over several days time. Remember the virus must incubate for some time before there is enough virus in the body to show up on a test. And not all tests are the same. Some of the Abbott Rapid 15 minute tests are only 85% sensitivity and can give a lot of false negative results. This can allow people to think that they are ok and yet still have the virus inside them, incubating and being shed to others. This is why we must quarantine if we think we have the virus or been in close contact with someone else who does have the virus and has tested positive with a PCR type test which has a sensitivity of 95%. Bu the PCR test requires longer to process and most times has to be sent out to a proper lab and takes more time to get the results.
So your buddy may not have worn his mask 100% of the time. His mask may not have been washed properly or too old and should have been replaced with a new mask if it was a paper type mask. Paper masks are not designed to be worn over and over again. They must be disposed of and replaced with a new clean mask. There is no way to tell who he got the virus from without proper contact tracing and testing of everyone he could have come into contact with on a real-time basis or from someone who deposited virus particles on a surface that your body may have been exposed to at a later time.
You are Fu*King NUTS if you think that it's a Government Plot!!!!. Go soak your dam head in some alcohol and let someone Dr. give you some meds to calm you down before you can be reprogrammed back to sanity. You need professional help man.
Now I do feel sorry for you if you don't have enough money to buy food. There are churches and food banks that can help. Call your senator Mitch McConnell and tell him to pass the relief package for people like you and me. McConnell only cares for the large corporations that fund his campaigns. He has refused to fun the little people and help them through this pandemic
Wear a mask so you don't have to go into another lockdown. Blame this virus which is an act of nature much like a hurricane or flood or tornado only much worse. Blame the human overpopulation for this virus's ability to pass so easily from one person to another. Blame yourself for having too many dam kids and overpopulation the world.
Blame a lot of things but don't blame the Government in a democratic republic that we all voted for. It's not the Government's fault that they can't control idiots who don't wear masks or follow the CDC guidelines 100% of the time to the T. Because if you don't do the proper things then this virus continues to contaminate more and more people. The Government has given us tools to use. But it can't force us to use them. So who's fault is that? And remember you voted for that IDIOT TRUMP who failed to use the War Powers Act to force the US Companies to make enough testing kids and masks to keep us all safe. So if you want to blame the Government then Blame Mitch McConnell and people like Ran Paul who are too **** stupid to follow the science and who don't give a **** about the little people. Right now Pelosi and the Democrats have passed a huge air package to help give people help but Mitch won't even bring it up for a vote because it doesn't help his Corporate Friends as he wants. So the party of Stupid keeps voting against their own interest and then blames it on some made-up Deep State that Trump invented. Stop listing to people like Trump and Dr. Atlas and Mitch McConnell and Fox news before you get us all kiled by this virus.
And remember that your friend may feel OK now but he may not be all right. He could have long term health effects after getting the virus and recovering.
And my own cousin told me that her husband got the SARS CoV2 virus also known as Covid-19 disease. She said he was better and that she didn't get it herself. She may have got it and didn't know it yet. I'll have to talk to her and see if she got the PCR test or not. He is a retired Air Force Pilot and worked for American Airlines for many years before retiring and buying a small farmhouse. He still is very active and likes to work on the house and build other houses etc. They live on the outskirt of Louisville, KY. Their son is a pilot also and was just recently over in Afganistan flying the C-130 over there for our country. Her son played for UL for a year before he transferred to the University of Florida and studied aviation. Bob her husband who got the SARS CoV2 virus may be scarred for life. He may not know the damage to his body unless he gets some MRI's. Many younger college football players who got the virus and recovered were tested and they found damage to their hearts. Now, these were strong young men that still have myocardis. Let's hope that your friend is not also scared for life. They say that getting the virus can take 10 years off your life due to the damage it causes.
We are lucky that we have the monoclonal antibodies treatment now. That is probably what saved Trump's life. If he even had the virus and was not faking as he had it but didn't. Yea that is speculation but he got it and was only in a hospital for what like 4 or 5 days and they wanted to fly back to the WH wearing a superman T-shirt under his dress shirt! That is the story I read. But Trump had 8 different medical doctors take care of him at the time. And the deep state that you call it (Government = us the taxpayers ) paid for Trump's hospital stay and medical treatment. And if you want to see what happens when people gather together in close quarters without wearing masks just look at the White House and the party they threw for Amy Barrett. That is what happens when we don't wear masks and practice social distancing.
Good luck with your revolution as you are going to need all the luck you can get.
Republicans are not the only ones that are willing to fight for this country.
I'm in good supply of firearms and ammo for all of them.
. Of course he could just be a daycare teacher like “dr jill “.