Quote Originally Posted by jcb View Post
Honestly I'm asking the same question of you all.

President Trump didn't "question the legitimacy of an election." He declared, with no qualification, the election was stolen. Over and over again. Dozens (hundreds) of statements proven, over and over again, to be false. One crazy theory gets shot down, they move on to the next, and people keep lapping it up.

Know how we know they were false? Look at the difference between what Trump claimed, and many Americans swallowed, and what his lawyers were actually willing to put forward in a court of law.

Know why what he claimed on Twitter and what his lawyers claimed in court differed so much? Because you can get disbarred or even thrown in jail for presenting baseless claims in court.

To believe the election was stolen is the worst of all Alex Jones-ish conspiracy theories. You have to believe that Republican officials, in Republican states, most of whom proven supporters of Trump, combined with Republican judges, many of whom were appointed by Trump and contributed to his campaigns, conspired to rig not only the election but the court cases, where 60 ELECTION FRAUD CLAIMS were laughed out of court. And please don't give me "they didn't even look at the evidence" BS - it's there online if you're willing to risk challenging your delusions.

I'm a Republican. Been conservative all my life. Didn't, couldn't, vote for Biden. But good Lord over half of my fellow GOP members have been taken in by this alternate reality and the damage to our nation is going to be long lasting.
First your opinion is no more valid than President Trump’s. The difference is he actually has support for his with the several states that are ACTIVELY investigating the fraud. No one, republican, democrat, or independent, believes that 80 million people voted for current resident. No one.

It is clear that republican officials allowed unconstitutional voting methods,counts, and lack of oversight. That is without question. How could they look at evidence that they never allowed or ordered to be gathered? You are talking in a circle. You do understand the meaning of discovery? Maricopa county in Arizona still won’t allow machines to be audited, even after a court order! Is that alex jones conspiracist theory?

Finally, the ballot harvesting,fraud, clarity, and legality of mass vote by mail schemes were identified well before the election. Trump’s only mistake was not fighting the fraud before it happened. As far as him calling it “stolen”? I don’t blame him a bit and I’m in the majority whether they admit it or not.