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    Quote Originally Posted by pontooner View Post
    Absolute truth (pun intended). All one has to do is look at Donald J Trump and the Christian rights embrace of a man that has always lacked any semblance of what most would consider Christian values..... A man that much more closely checks all the boxes of the deadly sins than that of what one would call a good Christian man.

    I'm all about forgiving and believe that people can change, but if anyone thinks Trump "changed" for any other reasons than for political gain, then I have some sea front property here in KY that I would like to sell you. I mean all you ever here is that all politicians lie but when it came to Trump, it was always the truth being spoken.

    Anyway, Bone it's pretty funny that you now find yourself concerned with the "truth" after what went on for four plus years. Let me know when Biden gets anywhere near the level of lying of Trump and then we can have a serious talk. See below.

    In four years, President Trump made 30,573 false or misleading claims.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...aims-database/
    For me, the problem has a lot less to do with Trump's personal faith or lack thereof; we've had non-believers as president before without great harm done. It has a lot more to do with what he's enabled and accelerated. Most of all, abandoning a commitment to truth, Christ-likeness and adoption of an unholy alliance between politics and religion.

    What John Piper said was true:

    “I find it bewildering that Christians can be so sure that greater damage will be done by bad judges, bad laws, and bad policies than is being done by the culture-infecting spread of the gangrene of sinful self-exaltation, and boasting, and strife-stirring.”
    Last edited by jcb; 02-09-2021 at 09:39 AM.

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