Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
Man I’m sorry but I just don’t trust it. I was listening to a snippet from the cdc talking about the virus mutating in vaccinated people. They said they were concerned that this could be a problem and require more shots than the booster. Who knows? They seem to bring out new info all the time….I think they kinda tossed the cart before the horse on this one.
I went to the doctor today for some sinus issues to get meds and they wanted to check me for COVID (even though I had no fever or any of the other innocent symptoms like headaches?) which I’m cool with. They said people with my symptoms that come in are 99% positive on the COVID test. i actually laughed and explained the questions about how you are feeling are so generic that everyone would be a suspect for COVID…..again I understand but it just seems wrong to me. I wasn’t positive and I was pretty certain I wasn’t because I had it in January but it bothers me at how I’m being grouped into this “problem” group because I choose not to get the shot.
I told the doctor how it’s starting to feel pretty bad the way others look at unvaccinated people and she mentioned that’s why they put a rather not disclose tab on their questionnaire you fill out before going in. So I did have that choice.
Playing devil's advocate here…..let’s say we all find out the vaccinated people are the reason for this latest variant? That’s a theory out there now. What then? Will they be more susceptible to the new variant? Weaker immune system? Think people will double down and scream that it’s the unvaccinated still being the problem? I say scream because I had an older gentleman scream at me and even went and told on me at the YMCA for not being vaccinated. How did he know? I told him and maybe I should be more careful and just lie when asked? That leads to the passport thing….
Like I said I just don’t trust something that bypassed all the normal procedures and is given as the vaccine when in reality it isn’t. It is now or at least one of the manufacturers are.
I believe the mandates being imposed by some companies for their employees or maybe even the federal government will stop as more information is gained from the millions of vaccinated people. Stay safe people. I’ll do the mask and distancing and washing hands and all the other OCD crap I deal with. 
First I'm sorry that you got the Covid and am glad that you recovered. You are aware that some people have long-term covid and we don't know how long that can last. I'm also glad that you tested negative this last time. You are lucky to have a well-developed immune system that works. But, remember that the immunity of people that got covid and recovered can be helped by taking the vaccine. That will improve your immunity against covid by a factor of 9. Why take the chance that the next mutated virus variant will break through your natural immunity to the covid Alpha variant? Like I posted in the past here 1/3 of people who recovered from Covid Alpha have long-term memory problems. Please think about this and go get vaccinated. You will not only protect your life but the life of those you meet and are surrounded by.


And lastly. It's the vast majority of unvaccinated people that are filling up the ICU and hospitals and morgues now with the Delta variant. The way this works is when people contract the virus and incubate it inside their bodies for several weeks the virus can mutate over time. The more people with covid the greater the opportunities for the virus to mutate. Remember that most mutations don't make the virus more infectious. But once in a while, a mutation will be advantageous for the virus to survive. So the longer this virus remains incubating in the human population the greater the chances of more mutations that make the virus more dangerous and infectious. You probably had the Alpha variant of the SARS CoV-2 virus. But now the Delta variant of SARS CoV-2 is the predominant one in the USA. Where I live the vast majority 80% to 90% of the patients in the hospital with SARS CoV-2 virus that causes Covid-19 are unvaccinated. So I feel that I must correct you. It's the unvaccinated people that are spreading the virus and dying by a very wide margin. Now you may hear about breakthrough infections of the vaccinated population. These are very small in numbers and we are finding that it occurs in patients that have compromised immune systems. The vaccine does not work with this very small number of people. This is why they claim that the virus is 95% effective and not 100%. But we should never ignore the fact that 95% of the people who get vaccinated are protected from the virus and hospitalization and death. Only 5% will not be fully protected and it's because they can't make antibodies against the virus when inoculated with the vaccine. But normal people with good working immune systems make antibodies that protect them from infection, hospital stays, and death with 95% efficacy.

Conservative Radio host Marc Bernies is fighting for his life in the ICU or maybe dead now.

And the testing of this vaccine which was done when Trump was President was speeded up by doing it in parallel with the development of the virus. They tested the vaccine on over 40,000 people and didn't skip any steps at all. And this mRNA vaccine does not stay inside the body long. It produces the spike-shaped proteins that mimic the spike protein on the actual virus but it's not the virus. The mRNA Particles never enter the cell nucleus. They enter the cell wall and use the ribosomes to make the spike proteins that are then attacked by the body's immune system. The body then makes antibodies that are primed to attack any real virus particles that enter the body thus stopping the infection. Infections spread to other people if the virual load expelled from the infected patient is ingested or inhales into an unvaccinated person who then has no antibodies to fight the virus and thus the virus infects that person. The virus infects the cells faster than the body can fight it and thus spreads and get the person sick. This is why the unvaccinated people spread the virus more and end up in the hosptial and morges more than people that got vaccinated. And the fact that you feel a little bit guilty is a good thing. Maybe it will prompt you to go get vaccinated.

I feel so glad that we have a vaccine that can help save lives and plan to get my booster shot as soon as it's made available to me. I have underlying conditions that make me more susceptible to this virus than others. So I can't afford to mess around with this thing. I got my first shot in Jan on my birthday. And I got the second shot one month later. I had to wait an extra week in between the first and second shot because we had a big ice storm and I could not get to the clinic right away.

Get vaccinated, wear a mask when out and about, and wash your hands often. Also, practice social distancing as much as possible. It's like making sure that your car's airbags are working properly, wearing a seat belt and driving under the speed limit, and making sure that you obey all the traffic laws to help save you from having an auto accident. We do the same thing every day with our cars. Why not do this to protect ourselves from this deadly virus. Over 640,000 Americans have died from Covid in the last year.




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