Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
First off I'm sorry to hear about your mother. I get on the internet almost every day on many sites trying to spread the word about vaccinations and wearing masks and social distancing and contract tracing as the main ways to fight off this pandemic. One person lost is too many and we need to do our part to stop these deaths caused by the virus. I hate it when people go on the internet and tell others that the vaccines don't work as that is not true. They work as designed but are not 100% effective and can't save everyone. But they save millions of lives and that is what they are designed to do. This delta variant is nasty and can infect more people quicker. The vaccines we have right now were not specifically designed for delta but they work anyway for 95% of the people. And Pfizer is making a new vaccine using mRNA technology to fight the Delta variant. Hopefully, they will get approval to use that new vaccine in the near future. Some people who have poor immune systems can't develop the proper amount of antibodies when they get infected and die. They also can't develop the proper amount of antibodies when they get vaccinated and therefore can still get infected, get very sick, and even die. This is why we are giving a booster shot to them to help them develop more immunity to this virus. Most healthy people with a working immune system develop antibodies within two weeks after they get their vaccine and develop even more antibodies after the second shot. And we are finding that in some people their immunity to the virus can wane after about 6 months and they may need a booster shot. Even those that had the Alpha variant earlier and got over the virus can get their immunity improved by a 9 fold amount by getting vaccinated.

When you think it's luck or not that is the problem. Know this. Delta has an R Naught of around 6 to 8 vs the Alpha variant which had an R Naught of around 2.2. This delta variant is spreading faster and faster and if you don't get vaccinated you are just killing yourself. R Naught numbers represent how many other people on average an infected person gives the virus to. The higher the R Naught number the more people you infect on average.



We wear seat belts and have air cushions that inflate when we collide our cars with something in order to protect us. Why not get vaccinated and wear a mask too while keeping your distance from others until this **** virus is gone.
Man I’m sorry but I just don’t trust it. I was listening to a snippet from the cdc talking about the virus mutating in vaccinated people. They said they were concerned that this could be a problem and require more shots than the booster. Who knows? They seem to bring out new info all the time….I think they kinda tossed the cart before the horse on this one.
I went to the doctor today for some sinus issues to get meds and they wanted to check me for COVID (even though I had no fever or any of the other innocent symptoms like headaches?) which I’m cool with. They said people with my symptoms that come in are 99% positive on the COVID test. i actually laughed and explained the questions about how you are feeling are so generic that everyone would be a suspect for COVID…..again I understand but it just seems wrong to me. I wasn’t positive and I was pretty certain I wasn’t because I had it in January but it bothers me at how I’m being grouped into this “problem” group because I choose not to get the shot.
I told the doctor how it’s starting to feel pretty bad the way others look at unvaccinated people and she mentioned that’s why they put a rather not disclose tab on their questionnaire you fill out before going in. So I did have that choice.
Playing devils advocate here…..let’s say we all find out the vaccinated people are the reason for this latest variant? That’s a theory out there now. What then? Will they be more susceptible to the new variant? Weaker immune system? Think people will double down and scream that it’s the unvaccinated still being the problem? I say scream because I had an older gentleman scream at me and even went and told on me at the YMCA for not being vaccinated. How did he know? I told him and maybe I should be more careful and just lie when asked? That leads to the passport thing….
Like I said I just don’t trust something that bypassed all the normal procedures and is given as the vaccine when in reality it isn’t. It is now or at least one of the manufacturers are.
I believe the mandates being imposed by some companies for their employees or maybe even the federal government will stop as more information is gained from the millions of vaccinated people. Stay safe people. I’ll do the mask and distancing and wqshing hands and all the other OCD crap I deal with. 😎