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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    Trump is the blithering idiot. No one can deny that. Biden is 1000 times better than Trump.
    Let history provides us the facts we all experience to be the basis of such conclusions:
    1. Border/Immigration then vs now
    2. Inflation then vs now
    3. Gasoline prices and availability then and now
    4. Afghanistan then and now. (Noted fairly that one president left before the fully consequnences of the decision could be felt). What happened there for all we know could have been the same under either leader as the Afghan Army took early retirement.

    In my opinion the Covid deal can't be attributed to presidential leadership when both had different roles to play. Trump getting vacine moving, Biden continuing distribution. Darn it people its a national medical emergency and using it for political gain is distasteful, opportunistic, and reprehensible.

    To be accurate: Neither president had a dog in the fight when COVID caused home prices to get stupid high, building materials to become expensive/scare avaialbility, car chips to be non-available crushing new car availability and driving used car prices thru the roof.

    If I had one wish for this country it would be for our leaders to stop playing games on either side, address the real problems and work together to find long term beneficial solutions. I'm embarrassed by the childish, sensationalistic, selfish antics of selected people on both sides of the aisle. And having said that, I also recognize there are still some darn good, honest, hard working representatives of both parties out there trying to identify and solve real problems while putting playing games, calling names, and acting like spoiled brats on the back burned.

    But other that that, "So Far so Good".

    Tell ya what, next time you call 911 because your house is on fire (like our country is), lets take a little time to explore your political affiliation before we decide if and what form of support you get in response. Maybe a lecture, instead of a fire hose. SOLVE THE PROBLEM! Could we spend more time on that instead of pole vaulting over mouse crap?

    Example, if the fire fighter arrives and saves my home, I don't want the news reporting what race, gender, political party, vaccination status, or masking preference the fire fighter is involved with, nor should we touch off a major discussion of how the environment is the cause of the fire because the homeowner was too stupid to put a ground wire on his TV antenna. ADDRESS THE PROBLEM, THE REAL PROBLEM, FOCUS ON FIXES, EXECUTE IT AND JUST GET IT DONE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoraSpook View Post
    Let history provides us the facts we all experience to be the basis of such conclusions:
    1. Border/Immigration then vs now
    2. Inflation then vs now
    3. Gasoline prices and availability then and now
    4. Afghanistan then and now. (Noted fairly that one president left before the fully consequnences of the decision could be felt). What happened there for all we know could have been the same under either leader as the Afghan Army took early retirement.
    The problem with these yardsticks, especially #2 and #3, is that fluctuations are caused by complicated factors, presidential actions often being the least significant of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcb View Post
    The problem with these yardsticks, especially #2 and #3, is that fluctuations are caused by complicated factors, presidential actions often being the least significant of them.
    Good points. I’d agree there are more than one force at play. I also recognize that sometimes a single event, decision, or action serves as the catalyst that starts things along a given path.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcb View Post
    The problem with these yardsticks, especially #2 and #3, is that fluctuations are caused by complicated factors, presidential actions often being the least significant of them.
    Good points. I’d agree there are more than one force at play. I also recognize that sometimes a single event, decision, or action serves as the catalyst that starts things along a given path.
    What I personally am left with is in its simplest form a comparison of what I was experiencing before and after. Whether or not I know why the bee stung, I know what it feels like after it did compared to before. 👍

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