just one mans thoughts about the vaxer debate

[GeoFisher]

what is the goal of all these doctors and others recommending to NOT get the vaccine?
this video is a former federal housing commissioner that gives the reason but not sure i believe her.
https://rumble.com/vn2jhp-catherine-...id-agenda.html

Well, I think it is mostly about a VERY OLD idea of how to create, research and test vaccines. I mean vaccine technology from the 50's is NOT what I'd consider the way going forward.

People are scared of what they don't know and don't want to TRUST anyone , especially if it is tied to gubment or big pharma.

WE created this distrust with the messaging out of Washington, what to you freakin expect.

[TimE]

Well, I think it is mostly about a VERY OLD idea of how to create, research and test vaccines. I mean vaccine technology from the 50's is NOT what I'd consider the way going forward.

People are scared of what they don't know and don't want to TRUST anyone , especially if it is tied to gubment or big pharma.

WE created this distrust with the messaging out of Washington, what to you freakin expect.

I’d expect a shot that doesn’t kill over 70+ people a day. I’d expect an effective barrier against virus or spread. Is that to much to ask? You really went stupid over this ****, I’m actually sorry I’ve ever wasted time reading one of your posts. Especially with what some are telling me. Go piss up a rope

[TimE]

Tell me you don't know anything about exponential viral spread without using any of those three words.

Vermont. Israel. Maryland. Hell, how about the UK? Sure delta maybe more viral but less deadly. Get your booster kid , nothing to see here.

[ZoraSpook]

Why more deaths under sleepy?

Stupid is as stupid does. Birds of a feather, flock together.

And I bet you believe the current border policies are in place as a supply chain remedy for replacing those lost to the pandemic?

Please see this clip of Democratic Party planning Covid response.
https://youtu.be/dBRjIWRc45s

[TimE]

Stupid is as stupid does.

I will agree with that!

[GeoFisher]

Most, or at least the intelligent ones are capable of reading studies put out by other countries,opposed to just turning on fake news propaganda. As I have said ol sleepy now owns this virus with three vaccines available.We have more deaths in 2021 than when it snuck on entire world in 2020. Look at the amount of individuals that have survived it, 98.4% of people. Look at those who lived through two rounds of shots. No immunity? Why more deaths under sleepy?

All modeling I did personally showed we'd have more deaths this year...........I can show you those if you'd like.

I think the vaccine helped mitigate the spread. I also think DELTA is a whole hell of a lot worse than the others, and the fact we have natural immunities and vaccinated immunities, I believe that SAVED a **** ton of folks this year.

Next year.......we shall see.

We need herd immunity, no matter how we get there.

I won't disparage people who get the shot or don't. BUT I expect people to make their decision based on RATIONAL reasoning. Unfortunately, there are way too many people who have never thought rationally about anything.....And a **** ton of them exist on this site.

Later,

Geo

[TimE]

All modeling I did personally showed we'd have more deaths this year...........I can show you those if you'd like.

I think the vaccine helped mitigate the spread. I also think DELTA is a whole hell of a lot worse than the others, and the fact we have natural immunities and vaccinated immunities, I believe that SAVED a **** ton of folks this year.

Next year.......we shall see.

We need herd immunity, no matter how we get there.

I won't disparage people who get the shot or don't. BUT I expect people to make their decision based on RATIONAL reasoning. Unfortunately, there are way too many people who have never thought rationally about anything.....And a **** ton of them exist on this site.

Later,

Geo

Lol

[Moveon]

Just one mans opinion.
The Covid “pandemic” although a nasty virus is not the world ender that people have been convinced that it is.
Yes I agree it’s a very nasty virus that has taken allot of peoples lives around the world even some I knew but its not the great killer its made out to be, its been turned into a world/ US economy killer. The politicians ( both sides) are using it as a tool to further divide out country. If you step back and look at it there is always something one side is doing that is destroying our country according to the other side of the isle to pit us against each other, since the BLM movement has petered out we now have the vaccinated and unvaccinated divide. We have been thru the 1%er hate ect , white privilege ……….. We seem to need to keep stoking the class warfare narrative.
I’m not vaccinated but several members of my family are and I am by no means an anti-vaxcer. But reading all the conflicting data as to the need I prefer not to put any additional chemicals in my body. If you are wondering I don’t get flu shots either as I’m pretty fortunate I don’t get sick very often, maybe every 3 or 4 yrs. I’ll get something also I’m in my early sixty's.
Just some thoughts
1st In the US it has a survivability rate of 98.4% that is according to the latest info coming out of John Hopkins , the data uses actual confirmed cases not the what I assume are millions of undocumented cases. I for one have had it as has almost all members of my family including my 85 yr. old mother. We all had mild symptoms other than mild fatigue and one member had short term loss of smell. So I would have to assume that the survival rate is way more than 98.4% due to the fact that not everyone runs to the doctor for mild symptoms, I was randomly tested at work that’s how I found out about me.
2nd I wear my masks where required but only then. I crack up when I see a person driving down the freeway alone in a car with a mask on. I keep hearing that the science is always changing so they are updating the requirements. But I distinctly remember reading and hearing that normal masks did little to prevent the spread and the virus was to small for anything less than an N95 mask to filter out.
3rd It seems from what I've found searching the web, not reading left or right sites who are always trying to spin/interpret data for me, the vaccine works fairly well protecting those at risk from the affects of the virus but is waning with the Delta variant. As the virus mutates as all viruses do it will be have taken yearly. It will become the new “ flu vaccine” which flue vaccines usually are aimed at the last 3-4 variants of the flu.
On top of that it also according to some not all of the studies it helps reduce the transmission rates more than the unvaccinated somewhat but doesn’t eliminate it and with the Delta it effectiveness is even less in that regard and now there is another variant starting to upstage the Delta so its off to the drawing board with a new vaccine.
So the vaccine will help some but will always be behind as predicting mutations I would assume is almost impossible. So I for one will remain unvaccinated., I’m sure there are those on these boards who will call me stupid and uneducated, I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I have family members who are in the Medical field and another who are Medical research chemists who are just disgusted about all of the fanfare given the need for taking the vaccine, 75% are not vaccinated either and they have more letters after names than in them so they are far from uneducated.
We can each argue that the glass is either half full or half empty and both be correct so I’ll leave it at that. I’m a personnel choice kind of guy with a small anti authoritarian complex.
This virus is only important because it can effect those with money and can make money for others.
Why do I say this, its simple I have worked more during the “pandemic” than any time before. My employer had a waver to allow me to travel across state lines and work as we are essential to the nation, which I say bull s&^t, its because my company is way up the fortune 500 list s richest companies. The byproducts of my efforts do nothing to support the country on a short term bases, so I lived in hotels and ate out every day for the better part of the first 2 yrs. of the pandemic putting me at risk, although I've never thought about it being dangerous. Heck I wonder if I’m a hero to like the truck drivers and grocery clerks that also stayed open 😊
If it truly wasn’t about the elite and the rich then why aren’t we dealing with something that kills more people in the US than Covid has or ever will and is 100% preventable, what is it you might ask?

Yes poor Geo gets his panties in a wad when you don't use paragraphs and post more than three sentences. He can't read that much without his eyeballs popping out and getting crossed eyed.

[GeoFisher]

Yes poor Geo gets his panties in a wad when you don't use paragraphs and post more than three sentences. He can't read that much without his eyeballs popping out and getting crossed eyed.

Look up the definition. I said you BLOVIATE, I didn't call you a blowhard.

They are different, with different context and meaning, IMHO.

Later,

Geo.

[Moveon]

Look up the definition. I said you BLOVIATE; I didn't call you a blowhard.

They are different, with different context and meaning, IMHO.

Later,

Geo.

The difference is minor, and they can be used interchangeably. And you simple minded people don't understand.



Look it up or google it Geo. It will have a picture of your face there. You are just jealous that you are not as articulate. IMHO.