Making the same mistakes repeatedly

[Moveon]

that Big Pharma makes drugs that can save your ass.

[Devils Horse]

yea, it's pretty sickening when big pharma can run adds for us to get something the government pays for.
pfizer is running adds on the radio every 15 minutes.
what's almost as bad is the government running adds continuously. guess who's paying for that...we are.
it's beyond me why people still trust our government when it's run by known criminals.
90% of politicians are crooks and most government agencies are infected too.
they're all bought and paid for by big pharma or others with an agenda.
the worst thing is, i don't see a solution with our current system.
most voters are too stupid to see the corruption or they're as corrupt as the politicians and mooching off the working man's taxes.
i'm sick of it.

Don't agree with every single thing, but IMO there is a LOT of truth in your post.

[jcb]

Out of context AND before a vax even came out. The thrust of his remarks were an attempt to get the country back to some semblance of normalcy. Trump had enough sense to realize we couldn't just stop and bar our doors, the economy would collapse. He wasn't smart enough however to avoid trying to buy votes by sending out free money.

If it were completely up to your average Democrat politician...Andy Beshear for example, you'd still be locked in your house waiting on the government to print some money so they could send you another check. I heard he didn't even want people going to the parks, and even some boat ramps closed.

I mean you can be an apologist for it all you want, but he said what he said. I was really only trying to find someone who said what you claimed, that the vaccine was going to eliminate COVID. If you weren't referring to DJT, where did that come from?

[Devils Horse]

I mean you can be an apologist for it all you want, but he said what he said. I was really only trying to find someone who said what you claimed, that the vaccine was going to eliminate COVID. If you weren't referring to DJT, where did that come from?

And you can ignore facts all you want, but here's a press release from the person you voted for for President. While being careful not to state it outright, it does imply the vax will beat Covid. There is also an ominous tone, a not so veiled threat to those who won't take it.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...19-pandemic-3/

[jcb]

And you can ignore facts all you want, but here's a press release from the person you voted for for President. While being careful not to state it outright, it does imply the vax will beat Covid. There is also an ominous tone, a not so veiled threat to those who won't take it.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...19-pandemic-3/

I need your help on what facts I'm ignoring, DH.

Here are the verbs/verb phrases I see in this release:

"turn the tide"
"made considerable progress"
"We’re in a tough stretch, and it could last for a while"
"The path ahead, even with the Delta variant, is not nearly as bad as last winter"
"turning the corner"
"if we implement them, I believe and the scientists indicate, that in the months ahead we can REDUCE the number of unvaccinated Americans, DECREASE hospitalizations and deaths"
"reduce the spread of COVID-19"
"stem the spread of COVID-19"
"we’ve made so much progress"
"vaccinations in August already are having an impact"

What "fact" am I missing in the release that even remotely implies the vaccines will totally eradicate COVID-19?

[Devils Horse]

I need your help on what facts I'm ignoring, DH.

Here are the verbs/verb phrases I see in this release:

"turn the tide"
"made considerable progress"
"We’re in a tough stretch, and it could last for a while"
"The path ahead, even with the Delta variant, is not nearly as bad as last winter"
"turning the corner"
"if we implement them, I believe and the scientists indicate, that in the months ahead we can REDUCE the number of unvaccinated Americans, DECREASE hospitalizations and deaths"
"reduce the spread of COVID-19"
"stem the spread of COVID-19"
"we’ve made so much progress"
"vaccinations in August already are having an impact"

What "fact" am I missing in the release that even remotely implies the vaccines will totally eradicate COVID-19?

Convincing case, if you don't think the implication is there then it isn't'

Here's my list of excerpts:

we can and we will turn the tide on COVID-19
This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated
These are the facts
This is not about freedom or personal choice
We’re going to protect vaccinated workers from unvaccinated co-workers
because I have that federal authority
To those of you running large entertainment venues — from sports arenas
to concert venues to movie theaters — please require folks to get vaccinated or show a negative test as a condition of entry.
We’ve been patient, but our patience is wearing thin
Trust me, I know
then children can be safe from COVID-19
I’ll use my power as President to get them out of the way
If you break the rules, be prepared to pay
We have the tools. Now we just have to finish the job with truth, with science, with confidence, and together as one nation

[jcb]

Convincing case, if you don't think the implication is there then it isn't'

Here's my list of excerpts:

we can and we will turn the tide on COVID-19
This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated
These are the facts
This is not about freedom or personal choice
We’re going to protect vaccinated workers from unvaccinated co-workers
because I have that federal authority
To those of you running large entertainment venues — from sports arenas
to concert venues to movie theaters — please require folks to get vaccinated or show a negative test as a condition of entry.
We’ve been patient, but our patience is wearing thin
Trust me, I know
then children can be safe from COVID-19
I’ll use my power as President to get them out of the way
If you break the rules, be prepared to pay
We have the tools. Now we just have to finish the job with truth, with science, with confidence, and together as one nation

Am I missing something? Which one of those even remotely implies total eradication of COVID-19?

[Moveon]

Am I missing something? Which one of those even remotely implies total eradication of COVID-19?

They refuse to get vaccinated and think the virus is a hoax and don't realize how bad it is until they get infected and die. Then it's too **** late.

This virus mutates all the time and the mutations that help the virus spread are kept and those that don't are not kept. The virus mutates faster than we can develop new antibody tests, Virus test and vaccines that keep you from getting infected. Where only 2% of the vaccinated people get infected it's the unvaccinated people that are helping the virus spread and mutate over and over again.

We will have to get vaccinated for this virus every year just like we do for the flu. And this year the guessed wrong and make the wrong flu vaccine and it's not working. Reminds me of the SARS CoV-2 virus.

Mother nature has her eye on reducing the human population.

[Devils Horse]

They refuse to get vaccinated and think the virus is a hoax and don't realize how bad it is until they get infected and die. Then it's too **** late.

This virus mutates all the time and the mutations that help the virus spread are kept and those that don't are not kept. The virus mutates faster than we can develop new antibody tests, Virus test and vaccines that keep you from getting infected. Where only 2% of the vaccinated people get infected it's the unvaccinated people that are helping the virus spread and mutate over and over again.

We will have to get vaccinated for this virus every year just like we do for the flu. And this year the guessed wrong and make the wrong flu vaccine and it's not working. Reminds me of the SARS CoV-2 virus.

Mother nature has her eye on reducing the human population.

Who is they? Nobody thinks the virus is a hoax. Liberal talking heads spewing garbage and lies doesn't make it so. They actually made you believe a past President wanted us to drink bleach, and filled you with enough vitriol to have you hoping some people get Covid.

Plenty of people out there who don't want the federal government, particularly when led by the likes of Joe Biden forcing them to take this kind of vaccination. Fine by me.

Just web searched, and Pfizer says 2 shots and you should be ok, but better if you get the third one. They do say those conclusions are preliminary, and use terms like 'less likely to become significantly ill' (paraphrased) rather than the vax makes you immune.

[Devils Horse]

Am I missing something? Which one of those even remotely implies total eradication of COVID-19?

I already said if you don't see the implication, then it isn't there.

My excerpts are focused on the lies, arrogance, and implied threat.

[jcb]

I already said if you don't see the implication, then it isn't there.

Yeah this implies there is some reality in which the implication IS there that the reader doesn't see, which is fantasy.

[jcb]

And you can ignore facts all you want, but here's a press release from the person you voted for for President. While being careful not to state it outright, it does imply the vax will beat Covid. There is also an ominous tone, a not so veiled threat to those who won't take it.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...19-pandemic-3/

Nowadays it seems that if someone dares to take a position that isn't in total lockstep with either the right or the left, it is automatically assumed they are a dyed in the wool member of the opposing side.

I didn't vote for Biden. Couldn't, I'm a Republican and a conservative, and pro-life. I've never voted for a Democratic president in my life.