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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
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    The longer we continue to hole up and backlog due to Covid, the worse the economy will get. Yes it is real, yes it is serious, but we cannot continue to hunker down and operate at less than half capacity. Ky's Uncle Andy would disagree, but there it is.

    I wanted to respond to this by itself. What do you think we should do to control covid and get the economy back going?

    The Chinese locked down and entire city of 11 million people to get rid of Covid in Wuhan where it all started. They did that for a month and then were able to open the city back up. I don't know if that worked or not but it was one way to do in in a dictatorship communist country.

    Now my idea and what I propose it to use the defense authorization act to make new vaccines that work with the new variants. The Army is doing that research right now. They are testing a vaccine for covid that works with all the different variants. I don't knows how they are doing that but it's a good start. We need to get a vaccine that prevents infection and use it on everybody fast. Thanks to the stupid Supreme Court 6 conservatives that won't happen so we will continue to have covid spreading unless everyone starts getting fully vaccinated.

    Then we need to make billions of N95 type masks and start using them. Again, Biden could use the defense authorization act to force more companies to make these types of masks. They were not pushed before because the health care workers needed them. But we should have enough of them now for everyone to use. Other than a PAPR or a full-face respirator they are the next best type of mask. But even wearing paper and cloth masks is better than wearing nothing at all.

    We need to keep people farther away from each other so the virus can't spread from one person to another. I read that they did some new testing with omicron and found that if the aerosols dry out the virus dies and can't replicate itself. Lower humidity helps dry out the virus and kill it. The viability of a virus goes down 50% in 20 minutes in a dry humidity environment. The study suspended the virus in a chamber with magnetic forces and then controlled the amount of uv light, humidity and temperature in the chamber and then grabbed samples of the virus out of the air and tested it in a lab to find out if it was still viable. They found that after 20 minutes its viability dropped by over 50%. So if we separate from each other and keep our distance the virus will not be as transmissible.

    Then we need to clean up and disinfect.

    Now these are reasonable and could be done but certain people don't think that they will follow these simple rules. And that is why the virus continues to spread and mutate. If we don't all follow these simple rules then the virus wins.
    You, sir are delusional, and your mindset is downright scary. If this is where the left is, things are far far worse than I thought.

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    You are the delusional one not me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post
    You, sir are delusional, and your mindset is downright scary. If this is where the left is, things are far far worse than I thought.
    The Right wing extremist like you are comparable to Hitler in Nazi Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    The Right wing extremist like you are comparable to Hitler in Nazi Germany.
    A good thing to remember when you're tempted to compare someone to Hitler: it makes you look dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post
    You, sir are delusional, and your mindset is downright scary. If this is where the left is, things are far far worse than I thought.

    What makes me wonder, is while this virus is going "bat-shirt" crazy, we still have massed football crowds, massed indoor expositions like the builders show, massed political events, and folks running around acting like the virus is no longer around.

    Patient: "Doctor, when I put my finger in my eye like this, it hurts bad"
    Doctor: "Then stop putting your finger in your eye"
    Patient: "You can't tell me what to do".
    Doctor: "Then why did you seek my advice?"
    Patient: "Because I want you to tell me how to stop this and not tell me what to do".
    Doctor: "I'm going to refer you for a psych evaluation, and after that, we can meet and try this again"
    Patient: "See, there you go again, telling me what to do".

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    [QUOTE=ZoraSpook;582611]What makes me wonder, is while this virus is going "bat-shirt" crazy, we still have massed football crowds, massed indoor expositions like the builders show, massed political events, and folks running around acting like the virus is no longer around.

    Patient: "Doctor, when I put my finger in my eye like this, it hurts bad"
    Doctor: "Then stop putting your finger in your eye"
    Patient: "You can't tell me what to do".
    Doctor: "Then why did you seek my advice?"
    Patient: "Because I want you to tell me how to stop this and not tell me what to do".
    Doctor: "I'm going to refer you for a psych evaluation, and after that, we can meet and try this again"
    Patient: "See, there you go again, telling me what to do".[/QUOT

    Doctor: You've got to get a battery of shots, stop living life, and stay in your house so you won't get Covid
    Patient: But you've been saying that same thing for more than a year, and more people than ever have it.
    Doctor: Yes, and people like you are the reason.
    Patient: But people who have listened to you, and followed your advice and are still getting it. Isn't Covid a lot like the flu, a constantly mutating virus that science has never stopped? I don't want to live in fear and isolation.
    Doctor: You're irrational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post
    Patient: But people who have listened to you, and followed your advice and are still getting it. Isn't Covid a lot like the flu, a constantly mutating virus that science has never stopped? I don't want to live in fear and isolation.
    Doctor: You're irrational.
    Vaccines don't keep you from getting sick, they keep you from dying. And, yes, COVID and influenza are both viruses but one is infinitely more deadly.

    The goal in the health community has never been the impossible goal of eradicating it, it's been to mitigate its risks, the primary one of which being dying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcb View Post
    Vaccines don't keep you from getting sick, they keep you from dying. And, yes, COVID and influenza are both viruses but one is infinitely more deadly.

    The goal in the health community has never been the impossible goal of eradicating it, it's been to mitigate its risks, the primary one of which being dying.
    The goal posts of the CDC and the WHO and the Biden Administration have changed, so much who knows what the end game is.

    And YES, they all are on record talking about vaccines and eradicating COVID. NOT one says anything about controlling it.....

    Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    The goal posts of the CDC and the WHO and the Biden Administration have changed, so much who knows what the end game is.

    And YES, they all are on record talking about vaccines and eradicating COVID. NOT one says anything about controlling it.....

    Sorry.
    I'd be super interested to see that statement they all made. I can't find it, though.

    My search results for "fauci claims eradicate covid" yields exactly the opposite.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=fauc...hrome&ie=UTF-8

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcb View Post
    I'd be super interested to see that statement they all made. I can't find it, though.

    My search results for "fauci claims eradicate covid" yields exactly the opposite.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=fauc...hrome&ie=UTF-8
    Biden is on record all over the place.

    The problem with search engines is they can be seeded to show or NOT show results.

    THAT has also been proven....but I doubt you believe that either.

    Use an alternative search engine, you might be enlightened.

    Later,

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcb View Post
    Vaccines don't keep you from getting sick, they keep you from dying. And, yes, COVID and influenza are both viruses but one is infinitely more deadly.

    The goal in the health community has never been the impossible goal of eradicating it, it's been to mitigate its risks, the primary one of which being dying.
    I beg to differ. Definition of vaccine:
    a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

    You are wrong about what vaccines are, and they need to call the battery of Covid shots something besides a vaccine.

    The goal of the medical community depends on who you listen to. Since the devil virus showed up, much like the virus itself the goal has mutated.

    I'd also argue that Covid is not 'infinitely' more deadly, there have been quite deadly flu strains. Too lazy to research it, but it's pretty likely no 'vaccine', or countrywide shutdown, or government checks stopped them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post
    I beg to differ. Definition of vaccine:
    a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

    You are wrong about what vaccines are, and they need to call the battery of Covid shots something besides a vaccine.

    The goal of the medical community depends on who you listen to. Since the devil virus showed up, much like the virus itself the goal has mutated.

    I'd also argue that Covid is not 'infinitely' more deadly, there have been quite deadly flu strains. Too lazy to research it, but it's pretty likely no 'vaccine', or countrywide shutdown, or government checks stopped them.
    I wouldn't hang my hat, or my argument, on an outdated dictionary definition. Words evolve as their meanings and usages evolve. Fifty years ago, if you looked up "gay" in your Webster's you wouldn't see the first reference to its meaning today.

    I agree the medical messaging has been horrible. Under both administrations not to mention the disastrous WHO.

    When I say "infinitely" I'm referring to today's common flu strains. They just don't compare to the severity of COVID.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcb View Post
    I wouldn't hang my hat, or my argument, on an outdated dictionary definition.
    true, the weirdos twist everything to fit their narrative.
    a spade is still a spade and queer is queer.
    i knew an old man 50 years ago whose real name was Gay. i bet he's glad he's gone.
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