Ky covid barcharts

[ZoraSpook]

https://chfs.ky.gov/agencies/dph/cov...lianceData.pdf

Shows first the incline in cases, then breaks out cases vaccinated vs unvaccinated. 20% vaccinated vs 80% not vaccinated. 4:1 ratio. 535,000 cases? 426,829 unvaccinated cases =80%, so if they had been vaccinated and also saw same rate as vaccinated folks (20%) then that 426,829 drops to about 85,365 cases. So overall state total cases might have been about 194,000 vs 535,000 cases we actually saw.

1. How much would that have reduced hospital staff burdens?
2. How much would that have reduced supply chain impacts?
3. How much energy would we have saved bit-hing and complaining about getting or not getting shots and govt shut downs, and business curtailment, and schools closing, etc. Oh yeah, and masking whinning.

When ya look at the total case cure history, after Delta sent us a memo we just failed to read it. So we continued to bit-h and complain and then lots of people got sick.

So for those in the 80% crowd, I sincerley wish you a speedy recovery. And for those in the unvaccinated regime, well....tell me how that works out for ya, and best regards.

And YES, hind sight is always 20/20. And YES, thems that ignore history are likely to repeat it.

[Moveon]

https://chfs.ky.gov/agencies/dph/cov...lianceData.pdf

Shows first the incline in cases, then breaks out cases vaccinated vs unvaccinated. 20% vaccinated vs 80% not vaccinated. 4:1 ratio. 535,000 cases? 426,829 unvaccinated cases =80%, so if they had been vaccinated and also saw same rate as vaccinated folks (20%) then that 426,829 drops to about 85,365 cases. So overall state total cases might have been about 194,000 vs 535,000 cases we actually saw.

1. How much would that have reduced hospital staff burdens?
2. How much would that have reduced supply chain impacts?
3. How much energy would we have saved bit-hing and complaining about getting or not getting shots and govt shut downs, and business curtailment, and schools closing, etc. Oh yeah, and masking whinning.

When ya look at the total case cure history, after Delta sent us a memo we just failed to read it. So we continued to bit-h and complain and then lots of people got sick.

So for those in the 80% crowd, I sincerley wish you a speedy recovery. And for those in the unvaccinated regime, well....tell me how that works out for ya, and best regards.

And YES, hind sight is always 20/20. And YES, thems that ignore history are likely to repeat it.

Question 1: Just because you are diagnosed with covid doesn't mean that you will end up in a hospital if you are
vaccinated and boosted. So get vaccinated and stay out of the hospital even if you get infected.

Question 2: If you are fully vaccinated and boosted then you won't get as sick and won't take up resources.

Question 3: If you are fully vaccinated and boosted then you won't be bitching and moaning as you won't get as sick
and need a hospital.

We still need to socially distance, wash hands, wear masks in order to reduce the spread of the virus and to slow down the mutations. Vaccinations help keep us out of the hospitals and morgues but they won't stop the spread of the infection due to the mutations.



The CDC released data today showing that the vaccinated people won't get nearly as sick and many vaccinated people won't even need to go to the hospital. The booster shots reduce the sickness.

It's the unvaccinated that end up in the hospital and place burden on the hospitals not the fully vaccianted and boosted people.

[GeoFisher]

statistics can show ANYTHING you want.

you have to perform some basic normalization to account for testing or the lack of testing.

We continue to push a narrative that the world is ending and that COVID is the worst thing in the history OF our world, yet it isn't.

I wish we would simply stop producing these ******** statistical reports.

CASE load and CASES and DEATHS are all I care about. Positivity rate is so freaking fake and arbitrary.

* Had we had 500 million tests to administer a year ago, the positivity rate would be OUT OF THE WORLD........
* Had we been consistently testing.....CONSISTENTLY testing we would see very little variance in positivity rate.

People are too stupid to understand that.

We should be statistically norming the testing based off of testing last year, not the ABSOLUTE number, because we are testing more.

I don't buy the positivity rates, and I also don't buy the testing statistics. Hell, half the tests are not producing positive outcomes when they are taken in the first place.

[Moveon]

statistics can show ANYTHING you want.

you have to perform some basic normalization to account for testing or the lack of testing.

We continue to push a narrative that the world is ending and that COVID is the worst thing in the history OF our world, yet it isn't.

I wish we would simply stop producing these ******** statistical reports.

CASE load and CASES and DEATHS are all I care about. Positivity rate is so freaking fake and arbitrary.

* Had we had 500 million tests to administer a year ago, the positivity rate would be OUT OF THE WORLD........
* Had we been consistently testing.....CONSISTENTLY testing we would see very little variance in positivity rate.

People are too stupid to understand that.

We should be statistically norming the testing based off of testing last year, not the ABSOLUTE number, because we are testing more.

I don't buy the positivity rates, and I also don't buy the testing statistics. Hell, half the tests are not producing positive outcomes when they are taken in the first place.

Remember Trump said we should stop testing so that we would not have as many positive test results. That is one of the main reasons I voted against Trump.

The bottom line is that our hospitals are filled up with unvaccinated Trump supporters who are using all the resources so that others can't even get taken care of if they are in an automobile accident or having a heart attack. Sorry the ICU is filled up with Covid Patients that refused to get vaccinated.

[GeoFisher]

Remember Trump said we should stop testing so that we would not have as many positive test results. That is one of the main reasons I voted against Trump.

The bottom line is that our hospitals are filled up with unvaccinated Trump supporters who are using all the resources so that others can't even get taken care of if they are in an automobile accident or having a heart attack. Sorry the ICU is filled up with Covid Patients that refused to get vaccinated.

He is really stupid with WHAT he says........

I don't mean he meant it that way, I think he meant it kind of how I presented it. Testing is very inconsistent, and the numbers and positivity rate is very inconsistent.

AND every test, including duplicate tests for the same person 3 times positive in a 10 day period is not 3 different positive cases, but the "powers that be" in gubment counted them as 3 different positive cases........THAT effed up the data, and continues to EFF up the data.

Final point........I actually think we should create COVID hospitals, much like we created Tuberculosis hospitals. IF you end up with COVID, and are hospitalized, you go here. IF not, you can go anywhere. That would free up some facilities. I believe.

WE will spike this month, and we will be done........for now, I believe.

Later,

Geo

[Moveon]

He is really stupid with WHAT he says........

I don't mean he meant it that way, I think he meant it kind of how I presented it. Testing is very inconsistent, and the numbers and positivity rate is very inconsistent.

AND every test, including duplicate tests for the same person 3 times positive in a 10 day period is not 3 different positive cases, but the "powers that be" in gubment counted them as 3 different positive cases........THAT effed up the data, and continues to EFF up the data.

Final point........I actually think we should create COVID hospitals, much like we created Tuberculosis hospitals. IF you end up with COVID, and are hospitalized, you go here. IF not, you can go anywhere. That would free up some facilities. I believe.

WE will spike this month, and we will be done........for now, I believe.

Later,

Geo

If you get tested three times and get three positive tests it only counts as one infected person. They count the number of people that are infected not the number of tests. I think you just imagined that to make a point which is wrong.

There are already mutates of the Omicron Variant and some are worse IE More infectious and contagious. This thing is not over. I wish I was wrong, but I see the future as more Covid. What we need is a vaccine that actually works for all variants but that is not going to work. Just look at the common flu. It mutates like Coronavirus and every year we must guess which mutate strain will be the most predominate. So, the vaccines for flu work sometimes but not others. this year the guessed wrong and the vaccine is not as effective on the current more predominate stain of the common flu in North America.

[GeoFisher]

If you get tested three times and get three positive tests it only counts as one infected person. They count the number of people that are infected not the number of tests. I think you just imagined that to make a point which is wrong.

There are already mutates of the Omicron Variant and some are worse IE More infectious and contagious. This thing is not over. I wish I was wrong, but I see the future as more Covid. What we need is a vaccine that actually works for all variants but that is not going to work. Just look at the common flu. It mutates like Coronavirus and every year we must guess which mutate strain will be the most predominate. So, the vaccines for flu work sometimes but not others. this year the guessed wrong and the vaccine is not as effective on the current more predominate stain of the common flu in North America.

YOU are incorrect..............PERIOD with regards to testing..........

With regards to Covid, you are right, it will be with us forever, and we will need to have "something" that is better. BUT we may never get that, and we might have to just build REAL immunities versus a "vaccine".

Your thoughts about the flu vaccine are pretty much spot on. We try to guess what flu will be "big" and target the top 20 or 30 variants in the vaccine. 90% of the time we get that evaluation right. When we don't get it right, we see significant rises in flu. You can see that in CDC data, and you can also see what variants were bad.

We shall see.......

Later,

Geo

[ZoraSpook]

I agree with testing slot because it ids folks that need quarantine. I agree with govt pushing out masks and tests.

But I think we have lots of emphasis on vaccine for possible/ partial prevention ( good) and testing for detection ( good). Now I’d like see same extreme efforts to get RX meds out there to TREAT those at home folks that get it but not so bad to require hospitalization.

3 prong attack. Identify, prevent, and Treat.

[Moveon]

YOU are incorrect..............PERIOD with regards to testing..........

With regards to Covid, you are right, it will be with us forever, and we will need to have "something" that is better. BUT we may never get that, and we might have to just build REAL immunities versus a "vaccine".

Your thoughts about the flu vaccine are pretty much spot on. We try to guess what flu will be "big" and target the top 20 or 30 variants in the vaccine. 90% of the time we get that evaluation right. When we don't get it right, we see significant rises in flu. You can see that in CDC data, and you can also see what variants were bad.

We shall see.......

Later,

Geo

Sorry you are wrong about the stats

And that REAL immunity you talk about will get millions more Americans killed by Covid. And that is INSANE!

As for Covid Vaccines we need to keep giving them to prevent deaths and decease hospital admissions and usage.

Right now both Pfizer and Moderna are testing a new vaccine that is specific for Covid19 Omicron variant of SARS CoV-2. They could have this ready for production right now if the Government didn't get in the way. But the FDA has to review data before they can approve the vaccine. That is what takes so long. Testing thousands of people to make sure it's safe and effective. Testing is going on right now. I'm not sure if that is phase 1 testing or phase 2 or phase 3. But it's an mRNA vaccine so they can change it easily and make it work against any variant that they have the DNA code for.

[GeoFisher]

Question 1: Just because you are diagnosed with covid doesn't mean that you will end up in a hospital if you are
vaccinated and boosted. So get vaccinated and stay out of the hospital even if you get infected.

Question 2: If you are fully vaccinated and boosted then you won't get as sick and won't take up resources.

Question 3: If you are fully vaccinated and boosted then you won't be bitching and moaning as you won't get as sick
and need a hospital.

We still need to socially distance, wash hands, wear masks in order to reduce the spread of the virus and to slow down the mutations. Vaccinations help keep us out of the hospitals and morgues but they won't stop the spread of the infection due to the mutations.



The CDC released data today showing that the vaccinated people won't get nearly as sick and many vaccinated people won't even need to go to the hospital. The booster shots reduce the sickness.

It's the unvaccinated that end up in the hospital and place burden on the hospitals not the fully vaccianted and boosted people.

I actually agree the vaccine data on people vaxxed and boosted definitely shows that those people are not consuming the resources in our hospitals.

[GeoFisher]

My points about statistics.

Here is the most interesting chart about versus unvaccinated

The first Picture is directly the post above about numbers.
The second picture, I looked at the data a little differently.


If my math is right, it actually shows that fully vaccinated people who end up in teh hospital are dying at a higher rate. I know why....they are older, and more likely TO DIE from it.........

BUT a right winger .....besides me Could easily use that data to paint a different narrative, IMHO.

Also my math could be wrong.........

Chart1.jpg
chart2.jpg

Later,

Geo

[dragmerc]

i guess this is another right wing dummy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIYeF18fW9o

it's starting to look like anyone that isn't half dead already with diabetes or a life long history of bad decisions is better off taking their chances with the GOF virus than the jab.