Putin invades Ukraine

[Moveon]

Putin has ordered Russian Troops to invade Eastern Ukraine today.

[Devils Horse]

No shock there. Be interesting to see what his party handlers have your boy in the Whitehouse do about it.

[Moveon]

No shock there. Be interesting to see what his party handlers have your boy in the Whitehouse do about it.

And your boy sat on his hands when Iran shot ballistic missiles at our US Forces in Iraq. Trump talked a big game, but he was a coward when push came to shove.

Biden is sending attack helicopters and F35 fighter jets to the Balkans and arming our NATO allies just in case Russia decided to attack others around Ukraine.

[ZoraSpook]

And your boy sat on his hands when Iran shot ballistic missiles at our US Forces in Iraq. Trump talked a big game, but he was a coward when push came to shove.

Biden is sending attack helicopters and F35 fighter jets to the Balkans and arming our NATO allies just in case Russia decided to attack others around Ukraine.

Well thats good so far. Now to really punish the russiians and prepare us, as well as help consumers, business, and the supply chain, POTUS needs "AS A STATE OF EMERGENCY ACT", reopen our oild and gas drilling, go full blast toward energy independence, refill our reserves so we have it if the worst happens, reduce the apin at the pump, and reduce transportaion costs to a supply chain that is struggling to fill shelfs, to support consumers, and increase retail sales helping busines while collecting more sales tax for all programs.

Get the Candian pipeline going again.

As electric cars increase, demand for oil will naturally diminish

[ZoraSpook]

"The Russians aren't invading, they are just tired of being penned up in Russia"
"The Invasion is mostly peaceful"
"The Russians are just angry about Ukraine, give them some time to calm down and everything will be okay"
"The COVID pandemic kept the Russians so penned up they just need to stop social distancing and get together with their nieighbors again".
"Defund Nato, Defund Ukraine"
"This is the Nazi's fault, none of this would have happened if the Germans had defeated Russia years ago. Germany is responsible for Ukraine getting invaded".
"Russia just wants to create an "autonomous zone" in Ukraine where they can feel safe.
"The Russians aren't being violent, they are just defending themselves from Ukranian oppression.

[dragmerc]

my gauge on getting involved in any war...would i want my kid giving their life for this cause?

politicians start most wars and politicians are the scum of the earth.
would i take direction from a politician?...NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Moveon]

my gauge on getting involved in any war...would i want my kid giving their life for this cause?

politicians start most wars and politicians are the scum of the earth.
would i take direction from a politician?...NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You will do what the politicans tell us to do. But I see your point. Wars are hell and I would not want my kids going to war either unless it was to protect our country from attack.

But remember that Hitler's U-boats were sinking American ships off the coast of New Jersey for years before Pearl Harbor and the start of WWII for the USA against Japan and then Germany. All due to a war in Europe. So we are tied to Europe and a war in Ukraine influences all of Europe and the USA.

[ZoraSpook]

You will do what the politicans tell us to do. But I see your point. Wars are hell and I would not want my kids going to war either unless it was to protect our country from attack.

But remember that Hitler's U-boats were sinking American ships off the coast of New Jersey for years before Pearl Harbor and the start of WWII for the USA against Japan and then Germany. All due to a war in Europe. So we are tied to Europe and a war in Ukraine influences all of Europe and the USA.

So in fact we did stay out as long as we could hoping Europe would take care of it, and when it totally got out of control, then we made the rightful decision to get involved.

And by the way, we the US was right at the end of the American Dustbowl, and the Great Depression, and with an antiquated and undermanned Army, Navy, and Marine Corps, so righfully, yea....we didn't sit on our hands......we built the capability and entered when we could.

[ZoraSpook]

So in fact we did stay out as long as we could hoping Europe would take care of it, and when it totally got out of control, then we made the rightful decision to get involved.

And by the way, we the US was right at the end of the American Dustbowl, and the Great Depression, and with an antiquated and undermanned Army, Navy, and Marine Corps, so righfully, yea....we didn't sit on our hands......we built the capability and entered when we could.

And as proof of that, look how fast it ended once we did get involved. Not fast enough, but still a constant march from beach head to Hilters dining room.

[Moveon]

And as proof of that, look how fast it ended once we did get involved. Not fast enough, but still a constant march from beach head to Hilters dining room.

We also had the Brits helping us fight on the Western front.

But good point. Things will be a lot different this time. Russia is much stronger now than Hitler or Germany was in 1944.

[ZoraSpook]

We also had the Brits helping us fight on the Western front.

But good point. Things will be a lot different this time. Russia is much stronger now than Hitler or Germany was in 1944.

Agreed, whole new set of capabilites. As an old tanker comparing fire control equipment, I'd say a T-84 could have taken on 10 King Tigers and come out on top.

[Moveon]

"The Russians aren't invading, they are just tired of being penned up in Russia"
"The Invasion is mostly peaceful"
"The Russians are just angry about Ukraine, give them some time to calm down and everything will be okay"
"The COVID pandemic kept the Russians so penned up they just need to stop social distancing and get together with their nieighbors again".
"Defund Nato, Defund Ukraine"
"This is the Nazi's fault, none of this would have happened if the Germans had defeated Russia years ago. Germany is responsible for Ukraine getting invaded".
"Russia just wants to create an "autonomous zone" in Ukraine where they can feel safe.
"The Russians aren't being violent, they are just defending themselves from Ukranian oppression.

Typical of what Trump would say. On the other hand former President George W Bush is bashing the Rusisans not Biden.