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    Ukraine, Oil, and Economy

    Wrote to some congressman today and asked they consider:

    - Emergency energy act to restart US production of oil and gas to prior levels reducing our dependence of foreign sources. Similarly, support the Canadian pipeline
    - Supports national security by reducing hostile nations use of oil and gas as a weapon against us.
    - Insures we have an abundance of fule we can then share with European allies reducing their dependence on oil/fule from hostile forces.
    - If Europe buys oil from US, then we are reducing their commerce with Russia introducing another economic sanction, by taking those profits from the USSR.
    -Reduce cost of gas at the pump by increasing supplies
    -Reduce costs to tranport goods, decreasing retail costs, increasing retail sales with more product available at lower prices, and in turn generating more sales tax revenues to fund other govt programs.
    - Increased retail sales, and demand for products, increase US national production demand and so continues to grow the job market.
    - We can still plan to protect the environment. As the number of electric vehicles increases, and costs to make them decrease, potential buyers will see the reduced operaing costs (No gas) and reduced maintenance costs (No oil changes) and demand for electric vehicles will increase, reducing gas car usage and environmental impacts.
    - A booming economy means the govt don't have to hand out money in relief checks to people, but instead can make that money available to further incentivise buyers that buy electric or hybrid vehicles. Which again, makes buying an electric car more feasible for a consumer, increases car retail sales and associated taxes collected, that again, can go back into govt programs to further increase health care for example, or then lower taxes.

    Current administration cut our sources of energy, then articulated our dependence on foreign producers making it that much easier for foreign producers to jack up the sales price, given a clearly articulated demand without an alternative source of supply. And like in Afghanistan, seeking the good of getting out, the plan was executed before it was sequentially planned. The same thing happened with the "go green" effort. Kill our current supply, and then try to figure out how to meet the shortages.

    I think now is the time to make it happen as given the world situation it could be considered to be an "Emergnecy National Strategic Fuel and Energy Initiative".

    What ya think? Make sense?
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    That pipline was for export to other areas

    Quote Originally Posted by ZoraSpook View Post
    Wrote to some congressman today and asked they consider:

    - Emergency energy act to restart US production of oil and gas to prior levels reducing our dependence of foreign sources. Similarly, support the Canadian pipeline
    - Supports national security by reducing hostile nations use of oil and gas as a weapon against us.
    - Insures we have an abundance of fule we can then share with European allies reducing their dependence on oil/fule from hostile forces.
    - If Europe buys oil from US, then we are reducing their commerce with Russia introducing another economic sanction, by taking those profits from the USSR.
    -Reduce cost of gas at the pump by increasing supplies
    -Reduce costs to tranport goods, decreasing retail costs, increasing retail sales with more product available at lower prices, and in turn generating more sales tax revenues to fund other govt programs.
    - Increased retail sales, and demand for products, increase US national production demand and so continues to grow the job market.
    - We can still plan to protect the environment. As the number of electric vehicles increases, and costs to make them decrease, potential buyers will see the reduced operaing costs (No gas) and reduced maintenance costs (No oil changes) and demand for electric vehicles will increase, reducing gas car usage and environmental impacts.
    - A booming economy means the govt don't have to hand out money in relief checks to people, but instead can make that money available to further incentivise buyers that buy electric or hybrid vehicles. Which again, makes buying an electric car more feasible for a consumer, increases car retail sales and associated taxes collected, that again, can go back into govt programs to further increase health care for example, or then lower taxes.

    Current administration cut our sources of energy, then articulated our dependence on foreign producers making it that much easier for foreign producers to jack up the sales price, given a clearly articulated demand without an alternative source of supply. And like in Afghanistan, seeking the good of getting out, the plan was executed before it was sequentially planned. The same thing happened with the "go green" effort. Kill our current supply, and then try to figure out how to meet the shortages.

    I think now is the time to make it happen as given the world situation it could be considered to be an "Emergnecy National Strategic Fuel and Energy Initiative".

    What ya think? Make sense?
    That pipeline was not to supply the USA with oil from Canada. It was to transport oil to the rest of the world from the South Coast of USA. It was not oil for the USA.

    War always gets the US Economy going strong. At least that happened during WWII. We made P47's and LST here where I live during WWII. And we manufactured 50 Cal bullets here as well. Evansville was humming with productivity, and everyone had a job here during WWII. But WWIII won't be the same. We were protected by an ocean during WWII, but that ocean can't protect us anymore with modern weapons capable of crossing the ocean in minutes not days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    That pipeline was not to supply the USA with oil from Canada. It was to transport oil to the rest of the world from the South Coast of USA. It was not oil for the USA.

    War always gets the US Economy going strong. At least that happened during WWII. We made P47's and LST here where I live during WWII. And we manufactured 50 Cal bullets here as well. Evansville was humming with productivity, and everyone had a job here during WWII. But WWIII won't be the same. We were protected by an ocean during WWII, but that ocean can't protect us anymore with modern weapons capable of crossing the ocean in minutes not days.

    Hmmm... WWII production was great for mega companies, and lots of small ones too, but it didn't stop or even help in any way the middle to low income families of America who even if they had a job worked for min wages and could not find stuff on the shelf, back then they called in rationing.

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    It ended the Depression that the GOP started

    Quote Originally Posted by ZoraSpook View Post
    Hmmm... WWII production was great for mega companies, and lots of small ones too, but it didn't stop or even help in any way the middle to low income families of America who even if they had a job worked for min wages and could not find stuff on the shelf, back then they called in rationing.
    Rationing was a way to make sure that the Military had the resources to win the war. We all sacrificed a little to win the war. Back then we had corner grocery stores in the neighborhood and people rode the bus to work. Everyone didn't have a car in those days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    That pipeline was not to supply the USA with oil from Canada. It was to transport oil to the rest of the world from the South Coast of USA. It was not oil for the USA.

    Yea dudess, it was.

    The Keystone XL Pipeline Project (Phase IV) revised proposal in 2012 consists of a new 36-inch (910 mm) pipeline from Hardisty, Alberta, through Montana and South Dakota to Steele City, Nebraska, to "transport of up to 830,000 barrels per day (132,000 m3/d) of crude oil from the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin in Alberta, Canada, and from the Williston Basin (Bakken) region in Montana and North Dakota, primarily to refineries in the Gulf Coast area".[12] The Keystone XL pipeline segments were intended to allow American crude oil to enter the XL pipelines at Baker, Montana, on their way to the storage and distribution facilities at Cushing, Oklahoma. Cushing is a major crude oil marketing/refining and pipeline hub.[25][26]

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