Masks

[GeoFisher]

Sadly, what the virus did accomplish was putting a fair dent in the Trump voting bloc after a lot them chose not to get vaccinated and paid the price.

Um, you should go look at JUST exactly who died. It did not have a political preference.

Lots of African American folks were killed by the virus, and I can guarantee you they were not Trump voters. They had a whole different reason for not getting vaccinated, but that **** doesn't fit your narrative, so...........

YOUR HATRED and delusional ideology is causing a fog in your brain my friend.

It is sad all around.

Later,

Geo

[GeoFisher]

Pretty sure that the truth is corrosive to him. I tried to show him and another/quite a few how masks were useless. Ok,5% effective, and they just got butthurt. The shot is a personal decision and should always be. I have stated that of those that took shot that I know, majority wouldn’t do it again. Unfortunately at that time the number of health issues among them were far fewer than currently. Good luck if you trust a mask or a $$ shot.

there are peer reviewed studies about just HOW useless they are.

I still got the shot, and I still used/believed some usage of masks.......

I will also get the booster....

We're still friends though, and I'd share a boat with you if you ever wanted.

later,

Geo

[GeoFisher]

Um, you should go look at JUST exactly who died. It did not have a political preference.

Lots of African American folks were killed by the virus, and I can guarantee you they were not Trump voters. They had a whole different reason for not getting vaccinated, but that **** doesn't fit your narrative, so...........

YOUR HATRED and delusional ideology is causing a fog in your brain my friend.

It is sad all around.

Later,

Geo

Screenshot 2022-03-05 201117.jpg

Admittedly this data is old.......almost a year old because DEMOCRATS and folks like DEMOCRATS who like to blame deaths on Anti vax trump folks have realized that DEATHS in the Anti Vax , Trump voter Demographic is not nearly as high as other communities.

African American deaths are significantly higher.......and their vaccine rates are low for obvious reasons.....

Your post is pretty inflammatory.

later,

Geo

[jcb]

Screenshot 2022-03-05 201117.jpg

Admittedly this data is old.......almost a year old because DEMOCRATS and folks like DEMOCRATS who like to blame deaths on Anti vax trump folks have realized that DEATHS in the Anti Vax , Trump voter Demographic is not nearly as high as other communities.

African American deaths are significantly higher.......and their vaccine rates are low for obvious reasons.....

Your post is pretty inflammatory.

later,

Geo

I don't know about inflammatory cuz it's true, but I did phrase that post in a rather callous way that didn't reflect the sadness of the deaths - any death. Point taken.

But I'd be careful using old data to form conclusions. From the JAMA Network:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2788286

Excerpt:

"Conclusions and Relevance
This survey study suggests that the intention of Black individuals to be vaccinated was initially comparable to that of White individuals but increased more rapidly. There is some evidence that this increase is associated with changes in beliefs about the vaccine. Vaccination rates continue to be lower among Black individuals than White individuals, but these results suggest that this might be less likely the result of vaccine hesitancy than other factors."

Some of those other factors might be a long history of being mistreated by the medical community. The Tuskeegee experiment, the Henrietta Lacks case, and investigations that showed doctors were more likely to recommend limb amputation for black folks than white folks who had exactly the same symptoms come to mind.

I'd say those are some fairly valid reasons to be vaccine hesitant. Unlike "it alters your DNA," "it's all about money," "they're putting a tracking chip in it," "look at all the people dying who took the vaccine," etc.

I'll hand it to the black community, they saw the evidence of life-saving vaccinations right before their eyes and changed their stance.

[GeoFisher]

I don't know about inflammatory cuz it's true, but I did phrase that post in a rather callous way that didn't reflect the sadness of the deaths - any death. Point taken.

But I'd be careful using old data to form conclusions. From the JAMA Network:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2788286

Excerpt:

"Conclusions and Relevance
This survey study suggests that the intention of Black individuals to be vaccinated was initially comparable to that of White individuals but increased more rapidly. There is some evidence that this increase is associated with changes in beliefs about the vaccine. Vaccination rates continue to be lower among Black individuals than White individuals, but these results suggest that this might be less likely the result of vaccine hesitancy than other factors."

Some of those other factors might be a long history of being mistreated by the medical community. The Tuskeegee experiment, the Henrietta Lacks case, and investigations that showed doctors were more likely to recommend limb amputation for black folks than white folks who had exactly the same symptoms come to mind.

I'd say those are some fairly valid reasons to be vaccine hesitant. Unlike "it alters your DNA," "it's all about money," "they're putting a tracking chip in it," "look at all the people dying who took the vaccine," etc.

I'll hand it to the black community, they saw the evidence of life-saving vaccinations right before their eyes and changed their stance.

Do you even read the **** you post?

1200 people......and weighted for White females mostly.

Go to the deep south, or go to largely african american population, and then do a freakin STUDY.

Sorry, but you KILL me.

From your own story:

Results The baseline data included 1200 participants (693 women [52.0%; weighted]; 921 White individuals [64.0%; weighted], 107 Black individuals [12.2%; weighted]; weighted mean [SD] age, 49.5 [17.6] years). The survey participation rate was 57.0% (1264 of 2218). Black and White individuals had comparable vaccination intentions in December 2020, but Black individuals experienced larger increases in vaccination intention than White individuals relative to baseline in March 2021 (b = 0.666; P < .001), April 2021 (b = 0.890; P < .001), May 2021 (b = 0.695; P < .001), and June 2021 (b = 0.709; P < .001). The belief that the vaccines are necessary for protection also increased more among Black than White individuals in March 2021 (b = 0.221; P = .01) and April 2021 (b = 0.187; P = .04). Beliefs that the vaccines are safe and effective (b = 0.125; P < .001) and necessary (b = 0.405; P < .001) were positively associated with vaccination intention. There was no evidence that these associations varied by race.


I will repeat.......a 1200 member survey, weighted as this is weighted is about as useless as **** on a bull.

Later,

geo

[GeoFisher]

Do you even read the **** you post?

1200 people......and weighted for White females mostly.

Go to the deep south, or go to largely african american population, and then do a freakin STUDY.

Sorry, but you KILL me.

From your own story:

Results The baseline data included 1200 participants (693 women [52.0%; weighted]; 921 White individuals [64.0%; weighted], 107 Black individuals [12.2%; weighted]; weighted mean [SD] age, 49.5 [17.6] years). The survey participation rate was 57.0% (1264 of 2218). Black and White individuals had comparable vaccination intentions in December 2020, but Black individuals experienced larger increases in vaccination intention than White individuals relative to baseline in March 2021 (b = 0.666; P < .001), April 2021 (b = 0.890; P < .001), May 2021 (b = 0.695; P < .001), and June 2021 (b = 0.709; P < .001). The belief that the vaccines are necessary for protection also increased more among Black than White individuals in March 2021 (b = 0.221; P = .01) and April 2021 (b = 0.187; P = .04). Beliefs that the vaccines are safe and effective (b = 0.125; P < .001) and necessary (b = 0.405; P < .001) were positively associated with vaccination intention. There was no evidence that these associations varied by race.


I will repeat.......a 1200 member survey, weighted as this is weighted is about as useless as **** on a bull.

Later,

geo

I found a better site, with better statistics.

This seems to show that over the past year, the vaccinated by race has really flattened, meaning within in a few percentage points, most races are close to each other in relation to vaccine status.

I still think your comment about killing of Trump voters was utterly disgusting, IMHO.........

Here is a better site with data

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...ace-ethnicity/