6 Jan Panel

[stripernut1]

dammit! I take it back, I miss you already man.

[ZoraSpook]

dammit! I take it back, I miss you already man.

Tight lines!

[Moveon]

The Jan 6 th committee will produce more evident and the DOJ is watching it all unfold.

[ZoraSpook]

The Jan 6 th committee will produce more evident and the DOJ is watching it all unfold.

Have they played the tape yet of Pelosi refusing the NG? Or did I miss that part.

[Moveon]

Have they played the tape yet of Pelosi refusing the NG? Or did I miss that part.

Nancy is not under investigation. Trump is. Nancy did nothing wrong PERIOD. Quit trying to distract the conversation with your BS.

Donald John Trump was the one that setup this coup attempts, and he did a terrible job but caused a lot of damage. Trump was twice impeached. Trump was the first every President of the United States that refuse to step down peacefully after he lost the election. Many people told trump around him that supported him that he LOST the election. The lawyer that represented GW Bush in Gore vs Bush before the US Supreme Court told Donald John Trump that he lost the election. Trump's own AG Bill Barr told Donald John Trump that he lost the election. Trump's own daughter said that she believed and trusted Bill Barr. Trump instead listened to Rudy and that Sidney lawyer who lied and are not being sued for millions by Dominion. Rudy lost his law license to practice in New York and soon will lose his license to practice law in DC due to his outright lies and frivolous lawsuits. Trump's lawyers filed at least 60 lawsuits after Trump lost the election and lost all but one minor case.

[ZoraSpook]

Nancy is not under investigation. Trump is. Nancy did nothing wrong PERIOD. Quit trying to distract the conversation with your BS.

Donald John Trump was the one that setup this coup attempts, and he did a terrible job but caused a lot of damage. Trump was twice impeached. Trump was the first every President of the United States that refuse to step down peacefully after he lost the election. Many people told trump around him that supported him that he LOST the election. The lawyer that represented GW Bush in Gore vs Bush before the US Supreme Court told Donald John Trump that he lost the election. Trump's own AG Bill Barr told Donald John Trump that he lost the election. Trump's own daughter said that she believed and trusted Bill Barr. Trump instead listened to Rudy and that Sidney lawyer who lied and are not being sued for millions by Dominion. Rudy lost his law license to practice in New York and soon will lose his license to practice law in DC due to his outright lies and frivolous lawsuits. Trump's lawyers filed at least 60 lawsuits after Trump lost the election and lost all but one minor case.

Gee, I thought the Dems “ said” this was an investigation of the occurrence to determine who was culpable. That would include all involved parties right?

Oh I am sorry, I presupposed this was an inclusive impartial investigation. My bad. So nice of you to state this is an investigation of one person.

By the way, did only one person enter the capital , attack police and damage property?

Let me ask this, if I tell you to paint your house pink, and you do it, who really is responsible for painting the house pink?

Oh wow. For it to be me I’d have to have full legal authority over you. Right? President is Commander in chief, how many proud boys are serving actively in the armed forces and under trumps lawful command on 6 Jan.

“ oh mommie, it’s not my fault, Billie told me to do it”. You ought get a t- shirt made with that on it.

[ZoraSpook]

[QUOTE=Moveon;583896 Trump was twice impeached. Trump was the first every President of the United States that refuse to step down peacefully after he lost the election.[/QUOTE]

Twice wrongfully charged and twice acquitted. Fraudulent charges and malicious process. Accept it moron, they tried and lost. Do if you want to call Trump a poor loser, so are the Dems that tried and failed twice and are just as poor losers and in there case refusing to accept that lawful outcome.

Pot calling the kettle black.

[jcb]

If inciting people to action is a crime, then lets have enough personal integrity and stop the childish BS and go after all the thugs that do this crap without regard to political party.

It is, and IMO that's exactly what DJT did.

But let's also stop with the whataboutism. Absolutely, the BLM riots were wrong on their face. Those responsible should be prosecuted fully and made examples of. But that doesn't mitigate what happened on Jan. 6 nor DJT's fundamental role in it.

The BLM riots did much more damage to life and property. January 6th did much more damage to the country and democracy.

[Moveon]

It is, and IMO that's exactly what DJT did.

But let's also stop with the whataboutism. Absolutely, the BLM riots were wrong on their face. Those responsible should be prosecuted fully and made examples of. But that doesn't mitigate what happened on Jan. 6 nor DJT's fundamental role in it.

The BLM riots did much more damage to life and property. January 6th did much more damage to the country and democracy.

Some people only want to distract the conversation with other BS. This conversation is about the Jan 6th events not any other events. To those that started talking about BLM BS, start your own new thread if you want to talk about BLM bs.

[GeoFisher]

No sir, I hold the people that physically conducted unlawful acts accountable including trespassing, destruction of property, assault on law enforcement officers.

We cant start with the foregone conclusion that Trump organized it when this kangaroo court has provided no evidence of that. This group has shown evidence a radical group did plan violence and execute it.

Ask yourself: if a politician says “ fight for your rights”, does that justify you taking the comment out of context and using a gun to shoot a political opponent? Of course not. If so Shummer ought right now be in jail for his comments before the criminal attempted his attack on a Supreme Court member.

When someone says if you get a bite, you must fight a fish, does that mean the fisherman should be carrying a gun and brass knuckles? Of course not.

There is only one person at the source of a crime, he who makes the personal decision to commit it.

Last point, when a person in Congress is assigned and accepts the position with duties that include the defense of the capital are made aware of an impending attack and take no responsible action to prevent it, YES SIR, that person with that duty to perform is derelict in their duties and therefore negligent, and culpable. Same as a boat skipper who fails to insure his boat is safe before inviting passengers aboard.

Last point, in recognition of your paddle boat use because of high fuel costs, I nominate your for an E P A outstanding environmental protection award because of your efforts to reduce the damage wakes cause to shore lines and the wide variety of species that reside there珞珞珞

What was that rock group that sang “ You got to fight, for the right, to party” ?

Should that group be charged each time a nut carries a gun into a bar?

Until the federal/ unindicted conspirators are Names........all 50-60 of them, I really don't have FAITH at all in this commission, or these PRIME TIME Hearings.

It is amazing that leftists on this site cannot recognize that this all about trying to hold minor power they have.

Trump, and his supporters will absolutely DESTROY the Democrats in 2022 and probably 2024. Democrats know that, which is why they are having this ******** in prime time. A bump in "ratings" here means a direct bump in votes, and those votes may be necessary for the Ocrazio Cortezes of the world.

You guys are laughable...............

It's so easy to understand.......Even a CAVEMAN can understand it...........Although I do understand that is throwing the caveman under the bus.

Later Communists.

Geo.

[Moveon]

[QUOTE=ZoraSpook;583842]You mean facts like L Cheney said when 2-3 weeks before 6 Jan the feds knew the plans were in place for an attack and Dems refused NG?

Let's take this one at a time. How in the hell could the Dems do anything about this when Trump was still the President and still in charge of the Military and his Croney Miller was still in charge of the National Guard?

There were no standing down orders coming from the Democrats. There were standing down orders given by Trump who told the Proud Boys to stand back and stand by. Remember that? I sure do. And there is more. I will find a copy of a letter sent from Miller and post it here too.


The capital police board handles those issues, and they consist of the house Sgt-at-arms, the senate Sgt-at-arms, and the architect of the capitol.
Yes, the house Sgt-at-arms reports to the speaker, but the senate Sgt-at-arms reported to McConnell who was majority leader.
So, are you claiming McConnell was in on it?

And then there is the Miller letter: Please read the letter in the first link below:


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/na...-capitol-riot/

https://apnews.com/article/fact-chec...R8warTRFGsklQU

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...96e_story.html

[ZoraSpook]

[QUOTE=Moveon;583853]

You mean facts like L Cheney said when 2-3 weeks before 6 Jan the feds knew the plans were in place for an attack and Dems refused NG?

Let's take this one at a time. How in the hell could the Dems do anything about this when Trump was still the President and still in charge of the Military and his Croney Miller was still in charge of the National Guard?

There were no standing down orders coming from the Democrats. There were standing down orders given by Trump who told the Proud Boys to stand back and stand by. Remember that? I sure do. And there is more. I will find a copy of a letter sent from Miller and post it here too.


The capital police board handles those issues, and they consist of the house Sgt-at-arms, the senate Sgt-at-arms, and the architect of the capitol.
Yes, the house Sgt-at-arms reports to the speaker, but the senate Sgt-at-arms reported to McConnell who was majority leader.
So, are you claiming McConnell was in on it?

And then there is the Miller letter: Please read the letter in the first link below:


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/na...-capitol-riot/

https://apnews.com/article/fact-chec...R8warTRFGsklQU

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...96e_story.html

HEY, DO YOU READ THE STUFF YOU POST?
FIRST LINK
What's TrueA Jan. 4 memo authored by Miller and obtained by Snopes required Department of Defense officials to seek his approval before D.C. National Guard members could use weapons at upcoming pro-Trump demonstrations.



What's FalseThe memo did not order any person or entity to "disarm" — or take weapons away from — National Guard members ahead of the deadly Capitol siege.