Didn’t your mother teach you better?

[Buzzy]

Yep is started with Reagan and it came into full force when Obama was elected. Trump then used this playbook to a T.

Its one of the reasons I think Trump is one of the worst leaders in history. Leaders are supposed to bring people together, not divide them. He lies and tries to scare gullible people into thinking he is the only answer, which couldnt be further from the truth.

Was the country more or less unified after the Trump presidency than it was before he took office?

Because that is my metric on whether I think leaders have accomplished their goals.

[ZoraSpook]

Yep is started with Reagan and it came into full force when Obama was elected. Trump then used this playbook to a T.

Its one of the reasons I think Trump is one of the worst leaders in history. Leaders are supposed to bring people together, not divide them. He lies and tries to scare gullible people into thinking he is the only answer, which couldnt be further from the truth.

Was the country more or less unified after the Trump presidency than it was before he took office?

Because that is my metric on whether I think leaders have accomplished their goals.

I agre we do have a reall bad batch of leaders out there on all sides.

[Moveon]

I agre we do have a reall bad batch of leaders out there on all sides.

They need to learn to compromise and work together for the better of all our people. If they can't do that, they get rid of all of them and put in people who can do that. The trouble is that new people are doing the same thing as the ones we go rid of. All they care about is getting re-elected and staying in power. That is the problem, and our founding fathers didn't anticipate political parties.

[ZoraSpook]

They need to learn to compromise and work together for the better of all our people. If they can't do that, they get rid of all of them and put in people who can do that. The trouble is that new people are doing the same thing as the ones we go rid of. All they care about is getting re-elected and staying in power. That is the problem, and our founding fathers didn't anticipate political parties.

Agred with that, at some point it became more important to selected folks to stay in office than it was to set an example of what we are about. and those same folks saw the younger generation playing victim, name calling, and getting what they wanted when people backed down from the temper tantrums, and so some of those elceted folks took that same behavior on thinking their supports would defend them.

This will drive ya nuts I know. But I could give a crap which party is in office or running the country so long as WHAT THEY ARE DOING....makes sense, makes the country stronger, safer, less crime, and more economical to live in.

[Moveon]

But I could give a crap which party is in office or running the country so long as WHAT THEY ARE DOING....makes sense, makes the country stronger, safer, less crime, and more economical to live in.[/QUOTE]

Both parties should do this.