Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post
We have a recycling bin here, and I use it heavily. Have heard it takes more energy to recycle that stuff than it does to make it. Don't know if that is true.

I've also heard that it takes more energy to make ethanol for gasoline than it saves.

Do you have any stuff in your house, or throw any stuff away? If so, are you willing to get rid of all the luxuries, and your vehicle, and live 100% sustainable? I'm not. What would be the point? First world standard of living is what everyone wants.

Many greenies (specially rich politicians) talk the talk, but when it gets down to it, very few walk the walk.
I have in fact gone away from a lot of the 1st world luxuries. Not %100 I haven't had a TV or internet subscription in 9 years. I live out of a trailer fishing and hunting 6 months when I dont work, wood stove converted in the trailer. I own a car but most places I walk or ride my bike to. I have a fish camp that has solar and a wood stove. A propane furnace for the cold months I'm not home. No air conditioning. Always have a large garden and can. When my girlfriends over the years have come over they are very weirded out at first I have only 2 bowls, 2 plates, 2 forks, basically 2 of everything utensil wise. Thats it. But then when dishes need to be down you dont have much to do!

I dont have anything in my "house" that I cant bring myself to throw away. I lived in 19 houses in 16 years so I was tired of always throwing away things I didnt use and didnt realize it until I was moving.
I became a minimalist out of frustration from moving so much.

If nothing else I save a lot of money and enjoy my days more than most because I dont have the typical "chores"

The one thing I really over indulge in is that I have 11 boats around the country. I hate trailering boats so when I see a 14ft lund or a jon boat thats cheap I'll pick it up and find cheap storage near where I want to fish.