I have been over a couple of years in a row and have also noticed that I don't seem to see them as much on top like a few years ago. I just thought it was bad timing. About 3 or 4 years ago, we slayed'em on top where ever the birds were diving. Maybe we will get lucky and find a few on top. I was hoping you would respond due to the fact that it seems you have a lot of experience on Cherokee chasing the stripes.... Thanks Yank!!!

I'll be in the red javelin one weekend soon! Any water temp that triggers when they start? It seems the colder the better up to a point in the past... usually late November on rainy overcast days.

Thanks again!