New Indiana Lake Permit Requirements

[Topwater2004]

Charlie,

I really didn't understand that either, about people who only need single ramp in, I guess they are getting screwed. The ramp fee is one thing, but I don't like the park fee to just drive to the ramp. That is revenue boom at Harden Res. You get to look at the purdy grass for a couple minutes, for $5. The ramp on the north side is a small drive way, then you gotta go way up the hill and park, then walk back down.

I wondered also about the out of state anglers. We may have to ban all those guys from Louisville from coming up to fish Patoka. It will still be ok for us to fish in Kentucky LOL.

[PL]

It looks like those who only fish a few times at those lakes that require entry fees will get screwed along with those out of staters. I can see some very unhappy folks in the near future.

I guess this type of permit will try and eliminate all those that go through the gate at Patoka before it opens up and never pay? I hope the state has notified those bass clubs that have taken out permits to fish tournaments so their members can be aware of what is going on especially those tournament guys that will come from out of state.

Does anyone know if the Conservation Officers will be selling the permits out of their boats to keep people from getting fined?

I'd hate to be one of those boaters that gets pulled over for not knowing about the permit. Gonna be some unhappy folks for sure.

Nothing worse than money hungery SOB's


Larry

[Moose1am]

Last year I fished Patoka a few times. Each time I launched out of the North Newton Stewart Ramp I had to pay to enter the Park and then pay a launch fee also. I stopped launching from Newton Stewart even though it's close to where I want to fish. I also had to pay for registering my boat. Not to mention the trailer licence and the truck license plate and the insurance. Then I renewed my Driver License this Jan for another 25 bucks. Add up the gas to get the truck and boat to the lake and all my fishing equipment and you see that it's not cheap to go fishing these days.

I am all for helping the DNR if they can improve the hunting and fishing oportunities in IN. I just wish that the Politicians would listen to the trained professional wildlife biology guys and not squander the money received on other state project.

I do think that I read that all one needs now to launch at Patoka is the Lake Permit on the Boat. I believe that is what I saw on the web site explaining how this new permit works. I hope I read that right. I do remember it saying that it will take less State employees to enforce and run this new system and it should speed up the entry and launching at Patoka an other lakes that require this new Lake Permit.

If you have not read the information I would recommend that you copy the link above by highlighting it and coping it to the clipboard in windows. Then just paste it into your browser address text box and go to the web site. That is where you will find most of the answer to how this new permit will work.

You don't need one to fish the Ohio River and I think that sites like the F&W areas may not need this permit. I have been fishing Bluegrass Fish and Wildlife Area and I don't think I need the permit to launch there. But Monroe and Patoka definitely will require that you have this new permit. And the Conservation Officers will be enforcing this new permit requirement on the affected lakes and reserviors.

Regards,

Moose1am

[WaubeeCharlie]

It's the State reserviors. Patoka, Monroe, Brookville,Cataract,Racoon Salamonie,Mississinewa,Huntington,Summit Lakes are what they have planned I think. These are all DNR controlled. Not Fish&Wildlife Areas like Tri-County or Bluegrass

[jimmy701]

this is probablly a stupid question, but does this $20 sticker cover all the lakes on the list?If so,this wil end up saving me money.Now I wont have to pay the five bucks everytime I launch.(which is more than four times a year).You would think this would lose money instead of making it.Just got a boat last summer so this is all kind of new to me.Thanks for any replies.

[Moose1am]

I think that the Lake Permit will cover all the mentioned lakes in the PDF doc on the Indiana DNR web site. So you will save money if you fish a lot of those lakes. Now one permit will cover the entrance fee and the lauching fees for all these different lakes. So that would let you save money.

I think that before you had to purchase a entry pass and a launch permit for Patoka and then if you wanted to fish Brookville you have to buy a pass for entry and lauching seperately for Brookville.

Someone correct me if I am getting this wrong. I think this is the way it will work.

Regards,

Moose1am

[catfishjason]

I think that this will save time at gatehouses, when you enter one of the properties that charge an entrance fee. Because the gate attendants are no longer responsible for checking if you have a launch permit or not. It will be up to the law enforcement division to see whether or not you are in compliance with the rule. I know at some places the gate attendents would have to visually see whether or not you had a launch permit on your trailor. It should not be there problem if you do not have one on there that would be up to the conservation officers.

I believe the way it worked last year, is if you had an annual launch permit, then you would only have to pay the entrance to the park.

If you had no annual permits it would cost you 9 dollars for the day.

I worked at a state park and it amazed me the persons who would have no permits at all and i would see them twice in a weekend and this would cost them 18$ just for that weekend. If they had bought an annual lauch for 20 dollars, and a annual park pass they would have saved alot of money.

For the people that fish alot this is the same thing as the annual launch permit, so if you had that last year, you are not paying any more money than last year. So if you fish a lot this benefits you quite a deal.

The only people that this could effect negatively is people who would only go to a state park or resivor once or twice a year.

I think what will happen with this is, close down the gatehouses where they only charged a fee for launching a boat. The only one i am for sure of right now is the Hanna Creek Ramp at Brookville. No entrance fee only launch (lake permit) fee. I believe there will be no need for an attendant if every boat entering this ramp is supposed to have a permit. It is then up to the Conservation Officers to worry about the permits and not the management of the properties where this is needed.

The only thing of my concern is at this ramp it is kinda of secluded and it was nice to know that somebody was in the area where the vehicles were parked.

catfish

[WaubeeCharlie]

You have always been able to buy a annual lanch and State park permit. Now they are saying you MUST buy only a annual permit no more daily permits. Yes for the person who use these places a lot there is no change. As was said the person who only fish's these lake once or twice a year they get screwed buy having to buy an annual permit! But like in life there is always a choice, pay the price or find other lakes that at this time is not being over chaged to fish the lake. Look at it this way , if they upped the charge to oh say $200.00 a year to launch and up the fishing license to $500.00, per year! Man look at how much the state can make!! As far as I am concerned, they have over priced the ramp fees for a one or two time user to help pay the running fee's at these bobys of water. I will just go somewere else. The KY board has a thread about this as well and some say they just won't fish Indiana lakes then. Their goes out of Stae licemse sales, and the hotel, store, baitshop owners won't feel the loss as well. Guys we all know crying and mowning on post like this won't change a thing! It's like peeing on a forest fire all we are doing is releaving ourself's !!

[idbefishing]

Charlie> well I hates to tell you but those that only visit a state park lake a couple times a year are the minority. We all know that the "boys" don't care about the minority. With the exception of Summit lake, all the other lakes are packed with pleasure boaters that go there every weekend. They will be very happy with the new rule since it speed up there entry time even though all they're gonna do once they get on the water is sit. They will pay up in a heart beat. Even if you take this to the state house you will loose. Anymore if the big boys tell you to pull out your wallet, you only have two choices: pay up or shut up. Unless we start a REVOLUTION, yeah that right a REVOLUTION! :D :D

[hardestyeric]

If you don't want to pay the gate fee at Patoka launch at Painter's Creek, Wall's, or Osbourne.
Eric H.

[raporter]

Way I see it is it sure beats the way Giest and Morse charge you.

[Moose1am]

Well even if you launch at Walls or Osborn or any of the other launch ramps you are still responsible for paying to launch your boat. The CO's enforce this rule. If they see your truck and trailer parked in a lot without the proper stickers they will issue a ticket. You will have to appear in Orange County Court or pay a fine though the mail.

With the new permit Lake Permit it may cover all these costs. As long as you have it on your boat. humm that makes me wonder how they are going to know if you have a permit by looking at your vehicle in the parking lots. My understanding is that the Lake Permit is suppose to be put on the bow of the boat somewhere. I don't rmember reading about putting a sticker on your vehicle. I guess the CO's on the water will have to enforce this rule or else they will have to watch for you to come back to the ramp and check your boat then.

I guess that some of the kinks will have to beo worked out.



Regards,

Moose1am