I'm not sure where your reply needs to be placed in the mix, moose1am. I'm sure that at some level, we all enjoy feeling like we got something for nothing, or even a little more than we expected for what we paid. But on some other level of how we perceive value, I personally am less likely to compalign if I pay $15 or $20 for an excellent steak dinner, than I am to complaign about say paying $5 for a really bad one. Are you saying that peole who enjoy the outdoors would prefer to not have to pay for what it costs to have those services avaialble, or that they would just perfer that someone else pay for it for them?