The other thing I have noticed at Brookville and Monroe is that the shad are skitterish. They jump with the slightest provocation. On Brookville especially the shad are so thick that even the carp think they stand a chance at an easy meal. They wallow up toward the shad and the shad wait until they're sure they're under attack, then they spring from the water and get out of the way. If you're fishing fairly thin waters, there's a good chance you're seeing this. If this is the case, cast out a Yo-Zuri Pinn's Minnow, a small and bright silver one, and finess the thing. Carp will take it, and they're a lot of fun for about the first three minutes. Then they just give up and go limp on the line. Their best selling point is that they are not slimy like a catfish. They're not a bad fish to handle and when you pull them out of the lake, their eyes are almost popping out of their heads and are entirely focussed on the lure that's hanging from those puffy lips. They're a scream to see. There's not a fish in any lake with more facial expressions than a carp.