Honestly matt i wasnt trying to bash you,i was just offering you a point of few from what i beleive is more than a minority of people.In defense of the dealor i would rather have the security of a good dealer standing behind a product even if it is used,then an individual possibly trying to dump his problem on me.But on the other hand sure i would love a 20 ft ranger with a 225 and all that but i know i cant afford it so i dont waste my time looking and haggling i just want to look into a price i can afford and just get the best for my money and yes that usually means its not my dream boat or car.FOR ME seeing a price is how i shop,not the best looking boat will sell me,i am sold by price.....Also if you did have a boat tool ong and wanted to get rid of it post a lower price on the site that makes it look more attractive to the big dreamer with the little budget.John