it was the lake on the inside of new circle, I have an apartment there. And on the LC's if the water is clear I LOVE the american shad, if its got some color you cant beat the tennessee shad. And yes the paint jobs do catch a lot of fisherman, BUT I had two other people in the boat with me throwin rogues and huskie jerks and they blanked, Ill keep buyin em, they got me hook line and sinker