What guide are you talking with? That's a giant LM for Dale...real strong. I've already post this, but I'm headed down this Thursday 9th and will return on Sunday the 12th. I don't feel comfortable discussing specifics on the forum. Email me directly and I'll let you know when, where, how....with very specific detail. I really like the Obey and it it sounds like you do too....there may be some fish with very sore mouths after this weekend 8^)

here's my email: [email protected]