Have you noticed?

[buzzking]

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Feb-08-06 AT 09:54PM (EST)[/font][p]what is worse than you thought don?
you were right DH, now i see why the post gets a little flame beside it when enough hit it, I got a little hot behind the ears. :) dang it, sucked me in again

[Devils Horse]

Buzz, what's with all the anger? You sure are quick to tantrums when you're opinion is not in the majority. It's okay to have a different opinion than others without losing your temper and going on the "another whining thread" or "useless flameout" rant. I didn't see a single person pigeon hole you as an ESPN undercover agent or label you in any way. You obviously care deeply for the sport and it's future, but it's going to be hard to sway people's opinion by force. Lighten up, you don't have to choke slam someone for joking or disagreeing.

On the BASS/ESPN subject. Bassmaster ragazine and B.A.S.S. has been about little else but selling boats and products for a long time. That's just the way it is.

I don't dislike Ike, Swindle or any of the brash youngsters, in fact they're pretty entertaining. My concern is if they're the future, where does it go from here? When the loud antics get old what do they do next? What does the next young guy coming up figure he's going to have to do to stand out and get attention? Now it could be, and hopefully will pan out that there's plenty of room for the more quiet Aaron Martens types and the Ikes of the fishing world too. I'm not real tore up about it either way, because all the pros and most of us wannabes across the spectrum support youth and conservation efforts.

[steve604]

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Man I can't wait for the FLWWF! If he beats you on the scales, bash him in the head with a chair!!! Would be great for ratings ESPN! .... sorry, just ranting. Last time I looked, this was still a gentlemans sport. A sport where two guys who don't know each other can pull up, talk about fishing, where they caught them, and on what, and have a friend the next week when they pass each other on the water. And it doesn't seem to matter if one is a millionaire stock broker and the other is a poor man in a hundred dollar flat bottom.
When this is gone let me know. It'll be time to burn the boat.

Steve

[eatsleepfish]

I can remember just like it was yesterday, sitting in a seat in my high school biology class daydreaming and thinking of only one thing, can my hero Hank Parker win the BASS Masters Classic this weekend. The Classic had already been hashed out a few weeks ago but it didn't air on tv until the middle of the August.(you know when they held the classic during the dog-days of summer in order to see just who was the best of that year, not during February during the spawn in Florida!)
With eyes glued to the tv set and my mother sternly instructed not to bother us for the next hour, my father and I waited for our man Hank to bring his bag of lunkers to the scale.
Hank was the last angler to present his final days catch. Jim Bitter brought a great sack to the scales just prior to Hanks' weigh-in. "Dad, will Hank have enough to beat Bitter," I said to my father.(you know the man that gave me life and taught me about fishing and what being a true gentleman was). "I think he can son, he has been strong all week and he has been catching them his way." With that assuring quote from my dad I put my eyes back on Hank as he approached the scales. When Hank had enough of Ray Scott trying to stall for time in an attempt to highten the drama, Hank forcefully requested "put'em on the scales Duey and lets see what I got!"(Duey was the weigh in guy)
When the poundage of Hanks catch was given, Hank realized that he had won by only one ounce over Jim Bitter. Hank raised his right arm high and screamed to the top of his lungs, shouting as loud as he could in a warrior-like scream. That scream was drummed out by the fans in attendence at that Classic, not to mention the screams coming from my father and myself. After I stopped jumping around the living room, I turned my focus back on the tv. Hank was not on the stage anymore. "Where is Hank?", I asked my father. Then the camera caught him down on the floor looking Jim Bitter straight in the eyes and thru Hanks' microphone I heard him say, "I sure do hate it for you bud, you fished a heck of a tournament!"

That sportsmanlike manner is what I miss seeing in todays tounament fishing world. Since ESPN took over those kind of honorable and gentlemanlike actions are not shown. For the sake of our fishing youngsters to come, they need to straighten up and realize what got this sport here in the first place.

Just my opinion..
remember...eatsleepfish

[Danny]

Kyle,

Change for the sake of change is not progress. Things can change, and actually regress.

Think about the number of really violent crimes that are being committed by children. Then think back just about 10-15 years or so ago when Mortal combat came out. That was the first, that I can remember, video game that glorified the killing of an opponent. You could rip his heart out, and still see it pumping in your annimated hand.

Times are a changing, now CBS and USA routinely allow actors to use the Lord's name in vain on TV, and in the case of the USA network, it was right after church let out on a Sunday. Do you call that progress? It is certainly change, but I don't call it progress.

Further, in your example you are suggesting that a whopping majority, 80%, yes 80 out of 100, are now fishing for the wrong reasons. 80 out of 100... hmmmm, we see the affects of glorified violence all the time, how about road rage... folks actually fighting and shooting each other... soon it will be boat or lake rage. Oh wait, we already have had several instances of people shooting at anglers, running the air boat right by the angler to spray him with water, a boat run in front of an angler trying to mess up his fishing ... fortunately he still caught a 6 lber. We have already seen Skeet Reese making fun of people who have mental development problems, we've seen the "G-man" go postal, or should I say go lakal on Zell Rowland, claiming he did not fish there the day before, never mind there was actual footage proving Zell was there the day before, and let's not forget the BEEPED out obscenty laced explosion from our man Ike at an E-50 last year.

Yep, that's proof, things and times are a changing, but I would argue it is not progress.

Danny

[Danny]

How about the new Gulp commercials depicting naked fishermen, Ike and Skeet??

Yep, let's encourage our kids to go on the stage naked to weigh their fish. At least they won't have any problems with competitive logo sponsorships being shown on TV.


Sheesh....

Danny

[buzzking]

maybe they could just tattoo the logos on their bodies that way a sponsorship deal would be forever.

[Chubminnow]

As I stated earlier on this thread, I don't watch much television...Is Hank Parker or Bill Dance either one still around, if so are they still doing fishing shows?

This has been years ago, but I was with a buddy of mine one time that decided to use Bill Dances advice while using a buzz bait...he said he watched Bill do it and it seemed easy enough...what he did was reel his buzz bait in on a steady retrieve, pulling it in just slow enough to keep the blades turning and also making sure to bump it into a piece of standing timber on the way back. As soon as the bait bumped the timber he'd stopped retrieving and let the bait flutter down for a second or two before reeling it back in...by golly if he didn't hook into a 5lb largemouth using this method...the fish hit right at the timber as the bait was falling...

[Danny]

Not to sure if Bill D still has a new show on, if so maybe it is on OLN, as I no longer get that network. However, Hank Parker is still on. His show is on the Outdoor Channel. This past week was about him and his family on a barbeque picnic, and fishing while using the hobycat kyaks (spelling?). Two weeks ago he was on Lake Barkley again, and this time he had one of the guys from the Knight and Hale bird calls. A lot of the background looked familiar, but then most of the bays with rip rap points look a like if the homes themselves are not shown. It could be they did all their fishing in Little River, or some shots even looked like McNabb bay, about half way back.

He has expanded his fishing thought to include redfish, bonefish, etc... and I would really prefer just bassfishing. But I guess maybe he gets tired of just bass fishing, and I imagine there are a lot of folks out there that like to see the red fishing too.

BTW, I think his show is on Monday nights at 9 pm central time. This is a replay of the show, as it is on several times a week. You can go to theoutdoorchannel.com and find the schedule.

I hope this helps.

Danny

[ranimated]

So here we go again it seems. Here's some more quotes from people afraid of change:

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
—Thomas Watson, Chairman of IBM, 1943

"I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with the best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that won't last out the year."
—The Editor in Charge of Business Books for Prentice Hall, 1957

"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
—Ken Olson, President, Chairman, and Founder of Digital Equipment Corporation, 1977

"Well-informed people know it is impossible to transmit their voices over wires, and even if it were possible, the thing would not have practical value."
—Editorial in the Boston Post, 1865

"Radio has no future."
—Lord Kelvin, Physicist and President of the Royal Society, 1897

"The radio craze will die out in time."
—Thomas Edison, 1922

"There's a lunatic in the lobby who says he's invented a device for transmitting pictures over the air. Be careful, he may have a razor on him."
—Editor of the London Daily Express, commenting to a staffer on someone who had asked to see a reporter and was waiting downstairs

[Chubminnow]

Ain't skeered...Change is good or it can be good...I just don't like change when it "appears" to be headed in wrong direction...

[ranimated]

“Custom is petrification; nothing but dynamite can dislodge it for a century” Mark Twain

I remember my grandfather fished with bamboo poles and thought the newfangled skeeter bass boats were for show-offs.

I can even remember when most everyone thought that catch-and-release was absolute foolishness. It was almost sinful to catch a fish and not eat it. What kind of man would do that? To my grandfather, no matter how you explained it to him, this was an inexpicable youthful arrogance.

And as for television shows, the first was Bill Dance in 1968 (and by the way, it took until 1980 for Jimmy to kiss his first fish) I was born in 1967 and man, has everything changed. I mean I sure am glad I don't have to watch Lawrence Welk on television today!

I mean if we want to stay in that era, why don't we bring back hippies and red ambassedeur reels too while we're at it!