dale hollow trip

[plowboy]

thebassman30, let me get this strait using live bait for smallmouth is cheating but for walleye and trout its not. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[thebassman30]

yes...my opinion bro. Hey...how'd you come up with the handler/screen name?

[plowboy]

Yes, everyone is allowed an opinion. It just seems like you are always bashing everyone that doesn't share your opinion such as the guides on Dale Hollow and the tourney guys on Barren. Everyone is doing something wrong exept you. You seem to be a informed fisherman (compliment!) but throw off on others that don't seem to do things your way. I am guessing you are a very young guy. When you say the guides are cheating I'm not sure where your coming from. I'm sure most of these guides are great people trying to make a living and sometimes when the fishing is slow it may take live bait to keep customers happy. I don't understand why you call them cheaters. Seriously its ok to be opinionated but saying others are cheating is getting a bit personal. It's not against the law to use live bait in Ky or Tn so how's it cheating? It is against the rules in tornaments so yes it would be cheating in a tournament? A float and fly rod over 8' would be cheating in a tournament(I think), so maybe your cheating if your using one longer. David Hayes was trolling when he caught the world record smallie so I guess he was cheating (if you go by tournament rules). There were people fishing live bait while you were in diapers so who are you to say whats cheating? I rarely ever use live bait and release all my smallmouth so its not like I don't have the same respect you do for them, I just don't like you putting down people that don't do things your way.

[thebassman30]

so dude...your handler/screen name? I'm not putting anyone down...that's just not very creative. If I were guiding, I'd do anything it takes for my clients to have a good time....including live bait.

So why are you so serious....I was cheating up until I was 12 but then I started worm fishing, etc. I'll even cheat for Sauger in the Ohio and anytime I'm fish'n for a meal. It's not disrespect or anything like that......most fish can't resist live bait if you locate them....so it's cheat'n dude. Again love it or hate it...it's just my opinion.

[thebassman30]

Oh and most tourney guys are super cool and terrific fisherman. A few that I run into on Barren are disrespectful and that's a shame. Like motoring up on a point (literally on the point) I'm fishing with their girl friend and slamming down their butt seat. I rank this up there with starting up the big motor in the middle of schooling bass.

I do a ton of things wrong too.... I cut off Elnutsmalljaw on the old car bluff not to long ago just to hit a specific spot for a few minutes. I felt absolutely terrible about it and let him know.

As a side note....trolling for a world record is not cheating....ever. Further...I'm 34 and still use the word dude 8^)

[plowboy]

I guess the word cheating just hits me wrong. I have alot of respect for most guides and even see most of the pro's that have their own fishing shows use live bait sometimes. It really doesn't take that much creativity to throw a float-n-fly either. Enough said. I'm sure the moderator of this board would rather have more positive post so I'll keep it positive. Good luck. Hope you catch a 7+ on your next trip.

[redneckshadrap]

"It really doesn't take that much creativity to throw a float-n-fly either"

I'll agree with you on that. You just have to find the fish.

Billy



Redneckshadrap
www.thecreekbank.com
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[thebassman30]

I threw everything you can think of in addition to the FNF to try and catch bigger fish. 4lbers are boring when you have a shot at the WR title.

Prior to a few years ago.....I fished the FNF for a long time with a 6' medium rod and pear float. I was shown this technique by a fantastic crappie and bass fisherman in my family.

I threw so many different jerkbaits and weighted crankbaits. I spoke with KVD once about fishing FNF and he said he'd just trick out a jerkbait to do the same thing. When KVD speaks people should listen by now...he's the Tiger Woods of bass fishing.

[plowboy]

I would say KVD is tops on my list maybe Clunn second but thats just my opinion. Lots of good anglers out there. Roland and his helicopter lure must be in the top ten.

[thebassman30]

Who wants to see a pig?

http://photos.yahoo.com/thebassman30

A selection of the biggest ones each of us caught. The first two are a 6.2 and a 6.0, then my buddy Alan with a 5.0 and Paul with a 4.8. This was Paul's first trip to Dale....he's officially spoiled.

[plowboy]

Nice fish, what kind of boat are you fishing out of? Can't see much of it but it looks aluminum. I wish kept my aluminum boat alot of times. Gas prices are high plus they are much better on the river. We often go to the river in the Summer and fish till noon or the fog burns off. I'm not sure if you have fished the Cumberland River but you have to have a jacket even in the Summer early in the morning. Those trout are alot of fun to watch chase jerk baits the water is so clear. Just a thought. When fishing gets tough at Dale your buddies might enjoy a trip to the river. Fred will fish Dale until June and then switch to the river for the Summer. Nice and cool and plenty of fish including big stripers if your into that.

[thebassman30]

18' Nova....they don't make them any more. All welded..Johnson 115 2-stroke. 24v Maxim. Perfect for the river. I'm completely self taught and I got my start fishing trout streams wading in the Smokies. I've never stop learning.

I haven't been doing much after I get back from Canada in June.....It get's so hot and night fishing seems to be the only option. I never thought of the river other than Kayaking.

Speaking of Canada...we've still got a couple spots open. Leave May 26th return June 4th out of Louisville. All you need is $500, an RABC and a little gear....game on! We are doing a super easy trip this year....less paddling and more fishing.