It's been tough this spring. We have been having a hard time figuring them out. We haven't caught hardly anything shallow and very few on the banks. We have caught several that went over 13 inches though and we have caught alot of fish just under 9 inches, so I hope that means it will be a good fall. The lake never has gotten up to where it should be at this time of year and I think that might have something to do with it.