Hi Dave, I see that you're just up the road from one of my favorite places on the lake. I haven't been over there in a while, but I used to come religiously. I started coming over there when the camp was called Miller's, then it changed to Ellenberger's. I believe it's now called Whispering Pines. I'm going to try to get back over there next year, if so I'll try to call you a few months ahead of time and maybe set an appointment for you to take my two sons out.