Cumberland white bass

[apb]

The fact that it happened on several lakes, at the same time suggests that there are similar things going on. Its not just a Cumberland thing. White Bass, like Stripers, can be very cyclitic. That is, you'll have some really good years, followed by some not so good years. If you have several years with bad spawns and people are still keeping a lot of White Bass, the population will crash. Same thing happened to Stripers in the Atlantic. If the same is the case for White Bass, it suggests that the fisheries people will need to keep better track of the White Bass populations in the future and change limits/sizes as soon as they see any decline. What are your suggestions?

I think you'll find that many people care. White Bass are a whole lot of fun and a great way to introduce kids to fishing.

Andrew

[mhall]

>The fact that it happened on
>several lakes, at the same
>time suggests that there are
>similar things going on. Its
>not just a Cumberland thing.
>White Bass, like Stripers, can
>be very cyclitic. That is,
>you'll have some really good
>years, followed by some not
>so good years. If you
>have several years with bad
>spawns and people are still
>keeping a lot of White
>Bass, the population will crash.
>Same thing happened to Stripers
>in the Atlantic. If the
>same is the case for
>White Bass, it suggests that
>the fisheries people will need
>to keep better track of
>the White Bass populations in
>the future and change limits/sizes
>as soon as they see
>any decline. What are your
>suggestions?
>
>I think you'll find that many
>people care. White Bass are
>a whole lot of fun
>and a great way to
>introduce kids to fishing.
>
>Andrew

Dead on the money!!

[SSKY]

Stripers in the Atlantic ocean? when did they ever vanish, From what I understand they are still there. Am I wrong? I have not heard that news yet. From what i have read they are still there as of today and will be for quite some time. Reason for the white bass demise "none" and I doubt you will get one that is acutally the truth. Stripers may be an excuse, alewives might be a reason but not bad spawns as they were here before the lake and did their job for 20 years after the lake and there are still sauger in the lake which have the worst spawning conditions that could be for them.

[apb]

Back in the 80's (I believe) stripers in the Atlantic went into a major decline. Happens from time to time. Try a google search, you'll find plenty of info on that. Stocks in the Atlantic seem to be doing fine now.

White Bass are well known for going through cycles. Add too many being taken from the lake while they are in decline and the population will crash.

Andrew

[apb]

http://www.fws.gov/chesapeakebay/striper.htm

half way down the page they discuss Striper decline in the Atlantic. Had a mortatorian on catching them some years.

Andrew

[SSKY]

Tried several times page not found. Yes I know that the comercial fishery overfished the stripers and when that happened they stopped them from doing that then the commercial fishermen focused on menhaden and when the stripers started to come back the fish focused on crab and people did not like that either. So be it and i do not care with the details. I do not want to be nasty or argumenative but i still do not understand the cycle of gone and not back with the white bass.

[mhall]

Unless you have a solution, let it go.

[kygorski]

If you go back to the stocking of alewives, you'll know that several years after that the whites started to decline.The same thing with dale hollow.The white bass are making a return on the cumberalnd river, but it wont last long, over harvesting is taking place. there are NO alewives in the cumberland river.

[kygorski]

Yes they are a lot of fun to catch, and they are really not that good to eat.Why are some guys taking 15 or 20 of them home? Over harvest isn't the main reason they are becoming scarce, but it is contributing factor. also these dramatic lake level changes must have something to do with the spawning fish.We have fished up north for some of the white bass runs, and these are river fed natural lakes, and the numbers are still good, but they have imposed some bag limits.

[SSKY]

good point, I do, but it will never happen. So I reserve my right to complain.The zebra mussels and the new brand will make their way to this lake from all of the runabout boats from the north which will likely effect this lake as well. there is an intresting article in the last walleye insider about a lake with a crash of alewives as well as a decrease in shad because of the the mussels, They will surely be transported here it is just a matter of time. White bass solution if you stocked half the number of whites as compared to stripers that go into the lake each year and they actually have spawning potential you might make a sustainable population that could support itself via spawning and the stocking would have to continue until the population was viable. But then again if you wanted to do that and spend the money you would have to give some reasonable excuse as to why they are gone, or am i wrong?

[SSKY]

Walleye Insider article page 14 for the vol 17 july/Aug/sept issue. If that happens here it would destroy the striper fishery.

[sprint]

you must not catch many stripers i have found 6lb smallmouth in a striper bunches of crappie and white bass.i have lived on cumberland all my life im 41 now,use to catch 100 crappie and white bass per now it takes me 2-5yrs to do.the kdfw will tell you anything(ask them about meanmouth bass)they say their is not such a fish we caught one and took it to them and they acted like we never brought one to them when we called about it.WHERE ARE THE WHITE BASS?