Dale Hollow Guide

[mhall]

>Maybe I am mistaken but I
>do remember "redneckshadrap", or "Mhall"
>talking about wearing them out
>on the fnf last year,
>not sure which one, but
>one of them loves the
>fnf, and has reported manymanymany
>big catches on this site,
>they are not a guide
>service to my knowledge but
>they are probably better than
>that. Hopefully they will
>chime in to tell.
>I know that one of
>them posted they were going
>to try the fnf on
>Ky Lake in a tourney
>and was wondering how they
>did, maybe I missed their
>post. Maybe you could
>discuss this with them.
>
>Elijah Orr
>Kentucky Lake Bass Club
>Asst. TD
>270-354-5285
>[email protected]

Mr. Shadrap is quite good with the fnf, and he just may go with you and give a good how to if asked. Guides are all over for the fnf technique. Most are very good such as the one ployboy suggested. Also Bob Coan, John Davis, and so on. A little computer research will turn up several for you to pick from. I'm still in the learning stages myself on the ole fnf, but I'm getting there.

[redneckshadrap]

I'm still a student on the F-n-F at Dale. Phillip Haley and John Davis have been my mentors. Phillips out of Glasgow and guides part time in his off tourney season. John Davis goes at it full time...www.smallmouthspecialty.com
I have no personal experience on the water with Stephen Headrick, but he also guides on Dale. I have talked to him several times on my trips there....

This year I'll be spending more time on Cland and Laurel throwing the fly.

I'm sure Elnut and Mark will chime in on this one.

Redneckshadrap
www.thecreekbank.com
[email protected]

[Bassky]

What length, power and taper do you suggest for FnF rod for smallies on Dale or Cumberland.. Never tried it, and I want to learn. I build my own rods and need some suggestions. Line weights too? Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Bassky

[plowboy]

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Jul-05-06 AT 10:27AM (EST)[/font][p]>What length, power and taper do
>you suggest for FnF
>rod for smallies on Dale
>or Cumberland.. Never tried it,
>and I want to learn.
>I build my own rods
>and need some suggestions.
>Line weights too? Any info
>would be appreciated.
>Thanks,
>Bassky


9 ft is about average for a f-n-f rod. Taper is very paroaboic, more like a trout fly rod than a bass rod. If your near a Bass Pro they make a float-n-fly rod that you can check out(micro lite) and silstar makes one that is popular. Go find one and check out the taper and guides. I think one of mine has 8 and the other 11 guides. Very soft rods to take care of the light line and to lob the f-n-f. I have friends that get by with a 6 1/2 ft medium spinning rod but when you have 8-12 ft of line below the float the extra lenth really helps. Remeber the float-n-fly is not rocket science. If your in the right area of the lake and have the float set at the right dept you will get bit. You may have to play (jiggle) with the float some if there is no wave action. Finding the fish is where the guide comes in at. Good luck?

[Bassky]

How about a 10', medium weight, fast taper? I am hoping to build a couple of these this size. Do you think this will work? Probably 2 part rod, EVA grips, spinning reel seat. I work close to the Cincy Bass Pro,
I will have to make a visit this week and take a look at some. I have heard some guys using steelhead salmon rods also.
Bassky

[plowboy]

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Jul-05-06 AT 03:26PM (EST)[/font][p]>How about a 10', medium weight,
>fast taper? I am hoping
>to build a couple of
>these this size. Do you
>think this will work? Probably
>2 part rod, EVA grips,
>spinning reel seat. I work
>close to the Cincy Bass
>Pro,
>I will have to make a
>visit this week and take
>a look at some. I
>have heard some guys using
>steelhead salmon rods also.
>Bassky


I'm sure it would work. That not an ideal set up but it will work. Like I said I know several good fishermen that us a short 6"6" medium rod with no problems and they have landed some monster stripers without any problems. The softer slower rod would just help protect the smaller line and cast the light rig a little better. The rod is not overly crucial. I've seen crappie rods used with good sucess. You may want to up the line size with the fast rod to be on the safe side. I know plenty of people catching them with 8 lb line even though most seem to be using 4-6 lb line. Good luck, I'm no expert so take my advice with a grain of salt. Set the drag to give before the line breaks.

[redneckshadrap]

"You may want to up the line size with the fast rod to be on the safe side."

One of the wisest post yet when it comes to the smaller length rods. If you don't listen to that, you'll break on the the hook set most of the time.

Billy




Redneckshadrap
www.thecreekbank.com
[email protected]

[thebassman30]

Sooo correct Plowboy! I used a BPS special for years with a house foam filled pear bobber for years....that's how I learned the technique.

I feel like the guides have really refined it to make it easier for the weekend angler to wack them.... with the special bobbers, etc.

I just love when that bobber disappears......as Will Ferrell (as Harry Carry on SNL) says....it's a rush ;^)

So it's game on real soon!

Mark

[thebassman30]

Chiming in.....

I like any of the guides on www.smalljaw.com. I also think you couldn't go wrong with the previous guides mentioned. I believe John Davis is on this site....third one down (Smallmouth Specialty Guide Service). You might also look into staying at John's cabin...photos listed on the site.

I really like Andrew Robertson w/ smalljaw guide service.

You should try to book something now if you can. Between Christmas-New Years has been a strong time for me.

Post your trip.
Mark