[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Oct-20-05 AT 10:39AM (EST)[/font][p] When using live bait, I use a HI-VISability bobber from www.bigtentackle.com called "bobber with a brain". The top of the bobber comes in different fluorescent colors. As an added bonus the bobber suspends your live bait off bottom at a preset depth after every cast. Hope it helps with the vision part of your thread.