Carnico is always our back up plan but I went there this Saturday and fished all day and only caught 3. Nothing was up shallow, caught all 3 on a crankbait. A guy we saw there said the lake was turning over, I don't have any idea if it was but I know it was really slow. We have done well at Carnico as well but it seems the grass is not there this year like in previous years. That's why I posted this questions because I know the back up plan might not be great this weekend. A guy who usually goes with us is wanting to hit the Ohio River but we fish that so much I'm tired of pounding it. I'll stop whinning now.