When the lake hits turnover the big fish will move up shallow, bass stuff on the strongest flipping stick is to small to draw intrest, yes I have heard for a long time of 800 bass fishermen catching a musky on bass lures and I wasted a year doing so, if you want to put in the hours of 800 bassfishermen with bass lures you will catch one. Topwaters do not seem to work, Spinnerbaits with a 6 inch trailer are OK Gliders seem to be the best bait to see a musky but they hook up poorly but get the most action. Big rubber baits seem to get only lazy follows and the rare big hit on the splash. Someone else tell me If I am wrong I would like the info