I think Banditman hit the nail on the head, in his post last night. about the fish haveing full bellies. I got their around 7:30 8:00 the first 3-4 fish i cought were 14"-15" as the day went on they got smaller. and then nothing they just shut off, But while it lasted we sure did have a good time. Good luck at cedar creek tomarrow BigGW,And good luck with everything else.....Happy huntin