I bought a pair of overalls that have thinsulate in them. I got one size too big. XL size. Now I have to wear a belt to keep the bottom on the pants from dragging the ground. I am bigger around that I am long! 40 waist with a 30" inseam. These keep me warm when it's dry outside and cold. But they are not waterproof or even water resistant at all.

I picked up a nice parka with a thinsulate liner that buttons inside the waterproof outside camo jacket. I can wear just the thinsulate liner which is camo on one side and brown on the other and it's reversible. Or I can put the thinsulate inside the parka and wear them both together when it really cold outside. Or I can wear just the Parka without the liner. I am OK for the top part of my body in cold wet weather. Now I have to find some bottoms that work with this parka. I am thinking of buying some Bibs or just some camo insulated waterproof pants.

I do have a pair of thinsulate camo jeans that keep me nice an warm when it's cold and dry. But these jeans are not waterproof or water resistant.

I fished KY lake one Nov and wore these jeans under the coveralls and felt like I was the pillsbury dough boy that day. But I was not cold that day.

For my feed I have some thinsulate lined boots that really do keep my feet warm. Those and some of the new moisture wicking synthetic socks work well. I have a thinsulate sock cap to cover my head and thinsulate lined mittens or gloves.

Thinsulate does keep me warm and cozy without a lot of bulk. I use to wear a down jacket but it would not cut the wind so if it was windy I got cold wearing the down jacket.

What is needed is not only waterproofing but wind proofing outer material that can keep the moisture out but let the sweat get out. Something that breaths.

All layers need to breath. If you put fleece over that cold gear underwear how does the moisture escape though the fleece?

I would think that each layer that you wear will have to breath in order to allow perspiration to vent out.

Regards,

Moose1am