Float n Fly Line ?

[Grumpy]

I am thinking about getting a FnF setup, which includes Spinning gear. I am terrible with spinning gear, except when I use braids, which is what I have on the few spinning reels I do have. My question is: can you use a light baid (such as Spider wire) for the main line and use mono or flourocarbon from the bobber/swivel down to the fly?

Does anyone do this? How has it worked for you?

Thanks,

Grumpy

[JimDicken]

>I am thinking about getting a FnF setup, which includes
>Spinning gear. I am terrible with spinning gear, except when
>I use braids, which is what I have on the few spinning reels I
>do have. My question is: can you use a light baid (such as
>Spider wire) for the main line and use mono or flourocarbon
>from the bobber/swivel down to the fly?
>
>Does anyone do this? How has it worked for you?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Grumpy

Oh heck yes. Go to my site on Float and Fly...
www.FloatandFly.com and I describe the absolute best way to rig using Power Pro Braid and Seaguar Fluorocarbon, using a 3 way swivel method that Bob Coan Developed.
It works extremely well and is better than most rigs due to the swivel and the bobber attaching to the swivel so you do not mess up the line wrapping it around the bobber.
Jim Dicken

[Grumpy]

Thanks, Jim, I must have missed that part when I read your stuff.
Good site, by the way.

Anyone else have any experience with using braids?


Grumpy

[Danny]

Hey Grumpy,

I don't FNF, but I have read many of the posts on here talking about the fact that braided line is light, and will float. Using a super light jig, it is a lot tougher to get the line to sink. Now if you use a leader that is the depth of what you are fishing, you are ok.

We need to get together and I'll teach you how to tie a double Uni-Knot. I learned from a Hank Parker show. This knot is just about 100% line strength.

I hope all is well there.

Good luck with the new technique.

Tight lines and God Bless

Danny

[redneckshadrap]

4lb Pline Flouroclear....

Billy

[SSKY]

It is not at all a techinque that requires special lines or rods or reels. You can do the same thing with slip bobbers with a bobber stop with any rig with 4 to 6 pound test. It is easier to do with a long rod and a fixed bobber, just my opinion.

[kygorski]

thats all I have been using for years, I use 10/2 spider wire or power pro. and a seagar flouo leader. How does this 3 way swivel thing work, sounds interesting

[Grumpy]

If I understand it correctly, you attach your main line to the 3-way swivel, then attach your leader line to the swivel, and then attach the bobber to the swivel.

[mhall]

>It is not at all a techinque that requires special lines or
>rods or reels. You can do the same thing with slip bobbers
>with a bobber stop with any rig with 4 to 6 pound test. It is
>easier to do with a long rod and a fixed bobber, just my
>opinion.


Does not work the same not even close!!

[elnutsmalljaws]

8lb Fireline from the reel to the swivel, then I use 6lb Flourocarbon leader in December when I want a faster fall for the fish will still somewhat not get discouraged by a falling bait. I will change to 4 or 6lb Mono in late January or February because the jig will fall at a slower rate and the metabolism of the fish has slowed therefore not apt to hit a faster falling bait. Just my technique.

[Moose1am]

The fall rate of the bait is determined by the density of the fishing line and the surface area of the fishing line exposed to the water.

I have always read and thought that smaller diameter lines sink lower and faster in the water than thicker diameter lines. This is due to the fact that water being a viscous liquid will slow down the larger diameter lines more because there is more surface area on the line in contact with the water.

All other things being equal ie same bait and line length in the water the lines diameter will effect the sink rate of the bait.

Am I wrong on this?

Also What's the difference when you use a slip float vs a fixed float in the way that the baits fall though the water. I would think that a bait on the slip bobber will fall though the bobber and fall almost straight down. It may twirl on the way down and the friction between the line and the inside of the slip bobber will slow the line going though the bobber. A bait on a fixed bobber may swing down in a pendulum fashion and may fall though the water faster. But the line may slow the baits decent with the fixed float seeing that all the line will be in contact with the water the minute the bait, bobber and line hit the water. On the other hand the slip bobbers line has to flow though the bobber before it can go into the water, being pulled down by the bait. The bait on a slip bobber falls straight down below the bobber essentially.

In winter time when the water is very cold and the fish being cold blooded area slowing down as compared to summer time shouldn't the bait be falling VERY SLOWLY or just hanging right in front of the fish's nose for a time being. Fish may not want to expend a lot of energy when the water is only 45 deg in Dec and Jan. Remember water at 39 deg F will be the heaviest and at the very bottom of the deeper parts of the lake. Water at the surface will either be warmer than 40 deg or colder than 38 deg F

Surely there is more than one way to catch suspended small mouth bass in the winter months.

How far below the surface do you want to fish for winter small mouth bass. I was under the impression that in Dec and Jan the smallmouth were be deeper in the water column. How much line can you have under a fixed bobber and still cast the bait out even with a 12 long F&F rod?
Regards,

Moose1am

[redneckshadrap]

Believe it or not you can cast 14-18ft leaders if necessary. I have fished one close to 16ft.

The wind will effect a slip bobber. It will pull the bait up out of the strike zone.

You can also effect the "fall" of the bait in the way you tie your flies.

Billy