Thanks Hogdaddy, makes me feel a little better. I thought Dale always ran a degree or so cooler than C Land, but sounds like it is more than that. Can't wait until the 26th to leave to fish Dale all week. It started that I was leaving the afternoon of the 26th to get down and unpack to fish Monday the 27th, then I said I could leave around 8am and get a couple of hours on the water before dark, now I am most likely leaving around 3am to launch by 7am fish all day and unpack after dark. I won't sleep a wink the 25th or 26th anyways.