CYPRESS BAY thats it!!!! I've been thinking about that all day long and it has been killing me! I know those bluff walls you are talking about, I've actually had luck on those during the summer. I just hope that wind isnt whipping across the lake, BRRR! Thanks for all the help guys, to be completly honest with you, jerkbaits would had been the last thing to cross my mind. Any good patterns, and how long of a pause are you guys suggesting? You gota remember, I'm more a post-spawn and summer time fisherman, but I'm starting to really get into the year-round thing, now that I have much more time on my hands