critter --thanks and I read about it somewhere and would really like to fish it but I've got a work related event on Saturday evening, 7 April and could not make it back in time..... Tims Ford is one nice lake and to me fishes sort of like Tellico with all the docks yet there is a rocky, clear cut channel that also fishes deep like Center Hill....... I bet it will take at least 14 pounds to get in the money if you have 5 with one or two fat girls..... let us know how it comes out and again, thanks for the info....tight lines.....