Elnuts..... how much did P line pay you to say all that stuff???? You're on their Pro Staff aren't you???? If not, you should be with all those 5 pound brown fish you caught on the FnF this past winter..... good to see you post and hope all is well..... when you coming down to DH??? DH is not just a FnF thing -- you can actually catch good ones all year long....... tight lines