right on clint....thats what I have been saying all along, I think the biggest problem is the EPA won't allow the construction of any new refineries with all their harsh restrictions. The refining capacity is what contributes to high pump prices, that and the fact, WHY IN THE WORLD would they want to build more refineries and invest $$$ to have the pump price drop and profits lowered....that would be lunacy from an oil companies standpoint....so the moral of this story is.....we're screwed.....get used to it or take up needlepoint, its not going to get any better.