I usually find them in 6-8' back up in creeks early or on flats. As the sun comes up, they are suspended in '12-20 at the edges of treelines. There's alot of structure underwater to crank, the old railroad and hwy are hotspots. Problem is, jerkoffs will come up and cut you off on that lake worse than Ive seen anywhere. I guess its just too small, these guys will run you right off a bank if they can.