short fish

[redneckshadrap]

depends on where you are, if your fishing kincaid lake in NKY where the thermocline sets up in the summer at around 13 feet then you are fishing plenty deep enough, if you are at cumberland, dale, barren, KY, etc. Alot of the fish are around 20 feet or more in some places, so 12' is not going to get it done. Pick up an old copy of E.L. "buck" Perry's spoonpluggin. He was a forerunner in structure and deep water fishing and a book that was written over 30 years ago is still one of the best reads for learning to fish deep. The main thing is to get off the bank and start looking for major contour changes, whether they are 5' to 20' or 15'to 40'. drastic contour changes are what hold a majority of the summer and winter fish so they can move vertically enough to feed without having to move horizontally that much. It also gives them the security of deep water close.

OR....

You could just email Flippin Drew.....

[buzzking]

yea that would help too

[rme hunter]

Does all of this information hold true for night as well.

[buzzking]

To some extent, but instead of being down on the drops in 20+, the fish will move vertically to feed and be much shallower generally, but they will stay close to deep water.

[mhall]

To some extent, but instead of being down on the drops in 20+, the fish will move vertically to feed and be much shallower generally, but they will stay close to deep water.

And be ever vigilant in watching for surface fish feeding on baitfish in the middle of the lake early and late in the day, and even sometimes in the middle of the day. I have wore fish out on topwater in 75 to 100 foot depths before waaaaay off of any banks. Long points are deadly for this. When they stop read your graph and fish jigging spoons and heavy jigs deep and you will pick up these same fish as they drop through the water column. They usually don't go real far and will follow bait up and down when feeding. Just a little extra to keep in mind. Everything Buzzking has posted is dead on, just make yourself go fish off shore, just try to fish where you have confidence that fish are holding, it will help keep your attention to stick with it.