On another jig note: I just started throwing the heavy (1oz) BPS football jig. With the feel of it I think I will use it as an alternative to c-riggin in deep water sometimes. I threw this jig in Grn Pmpkn/Candy with a Grn Pmpkn/Candy Paca Chunk today and had several takers in the 15-25 ft area. I really liked the way it kept bottom contact. I could feel the difference from one type of bottom to another and it gets down quick. I did also hop it up pretty far by fishing it like I do a t-rig only lifting the rod quite a bit quicker. I was able to generate a few strikes this way as well. It seems like a versatile technique and I'm sure to use it more in the future. Shhh! Don't tell too many people, but I was fishing at T-ville again today. If you can get 'em to bite there with all the jet-skiers, tubers, and pleasure boats plus the high bright skies, not to mention the fishing pressure, then I would say this could prove to be a very effective presentation. Try it folks if you haven't already. I think you'll like it.