UYKY is correct, use 10# floro, like P line floroclear, this stuff is tuff and just work the fish, I caught an 11lbr on 10lb in a tree and got her out, it took a while but I got her. Thats why they call it finese fishing as sometime after the bite you have to finese them to the boat. However the new clear braid from Berkley might be the trick for the thick stuff, haven't tried it yet and if anybody has let me know how it worked. Also spinning gear is the best way to use the shakey, but mainly use what you are comfortable with and have confidence in.