Too close for comfort.. Is fishing next?

[biggw]

Wow that is wild-I was 12 years old when i started hunting pretty much burned out time i was 19 -- i just can,t see a young boy going out to do a little target practice , but has to wait for his ding bat sister at 21 to be with him--opps sorry dingbats lol--goverment can be ugly some times wow

[DJD]

Wow that is wild-I was 12 years old when i started hunting pretty much burned out time i was 19 -- i just can,t see a young boy going out to do a little target practice , but has to wait for his ding bat sister at 21 to be with him--opps sorry dingbats lol--goverment can be ugly some times wow

I guess these self serving politicians won't be happy until we have Hillary Care and get treated as children on all fronts. It's sad sad sad... I wonder if what happens if your an illegal immigrant and you want to go shooting? Maybe you can drive (legally) to the local range or woods and fire away wthout any supervision. We all know they need their rights too! Sorry this post won't last i'm sure...but i'm pretty pissed when it comes to politics.

[MrSplitshot]

I'll play devil's advocate. Do you really think a kid is responsible enough to be out handling a firearm on his own? Would you send your 12 year old out into the woods with a 20 gauge and 3 of his buddies?

I got my first .22 rifle when I was 10 years old and was taught how to handle it safely...but honestly, I can't ever remember being out with it target shooting or squirrel hunting without adult supervision until I was older. Dad wouldn't let me. Kids are dumb.

I don't see the need for the law and really think there are bigger fish to fry in this country than trying to fix a problem that isn't really a problem...but taking whatever political need it serves out of the equation and looking at strictly the theory behind it...I'd probably support it if the age was 16 years old. If the state thinks you're not old enough to operate a motor vehicle, why would possessing/handling a firearm without adult supervision be okay? The proposed age of 21, however, is ridiculous. Like was said above, you can go to war at 18. I think that if you're old enough to vote and go to war that you ought to be able to buy beer and smokes and porn and whatever else at 18 too, but that's just me.

Parents should be with their kids if they're using guns up to a certain age. You're not passing on a sporting tradition if you're not there with the kid to teach them. Sending them out with a gun, unsupervised, isn't passing on much. A kid can't go buy a gun, so why should it be okay for them to posess/use one without supervision? I agree that parents ought to make these decisions, but let's face it - There are plenty of parents these days that aint worth a crap. Your kid could be out target shooting with one of their kids tomorrow. I don't know that a law would stop that, but it couldn't really hurt either. It could actually HELP pass on more of the sporting tradition when you think about it. Requiring more involvment from adults isn't necessarily a bad thing.

My two cents...

[Jbyrd]

I'll play devil's advocate. Do you really think a kid is responsible enough to be out handling a firearm on his own? Would you send your 12 year old out into the woods with a 20 gauge and 3 of his buddies?

I got my first .22 rifle when I was 10 years old and was taught how to handle it safely...but honestly, I can't ever remember being out with it target shooting or squirrel hunting without adult supervision until I was older. Dad wouldn't let me. Kids are dumb.

I don't see the need for the law and really think there are bigger fish to fry in this country than trying to fix a problem that isn't really a problem...but taking whatever political need it serves out of the equation and looking at strictly the theory behind it...I'd probably support it if the age was 16 years old. If the state thinks you're not old enough to operate a motor vehicle, why would possessing/handling a firearm without adult supervision be okay? The proposed age of 21, however, is ridiculous. Like was said above, you can go to war at 18. I think that if you're old enough to vote and go to war that you ought to be able to buy beer and smokes and porn and whatever else at 18 too, but that's just me.

Parents should be with their kids if they're using guns up to a certain age. You're not passing on a sporting tradition if you're not there with the kid to teach them. Sending them out with a gun, unsupervised, isn't passing on much. A kid can't go buy a gun, so why should it be okay for them to posess/use one without supervision? I agree that parents ought to make these decisions, but let's face it - There are plenty of parents these days that aint worth a crap. Your kid could be out target shooting with one of their kids tomorrow. I don't know that a law would stop that, but it couldn't really hurt either. It could actually HELP pass on more of the sporting tradition when you think about it. Requiring more involvment from adults isn't necessarily a bad thing.

My two cents...

The problem with what you are saying is ,yes some 12 year olds do need adult supervision and as far as I know anyone in the state of Ky must be with an adult until 16 if they are in the woods with a firearm.THIS law is saying 21.....

[MrSplitshot]

Oh...I didn't know there was a law about anyone under 16 now.

If so, I think that's enough. No need, in my opinion, to extend that to 21.

[fishbum]

Oh...I didn't know there was a law about anyone under 16 now.

If so, I think that's enough. No need, in my opinion, to extend that to 21.

The Ohio Law prevents a person of 18 to own a Long Gun. As far as I know that is the National Number.. and you can not own a hand gun until 21.
However this says that NO one under 21 can HUNT without supervision much less own a gun.
An 18 Year Old Soldier home on Leave would have to have an adult to go with him, and the adult MAY have less knowledge of a gun. It also does not take into consideration current Hunter Safetly Laws requiring all people born after a certain date to have a Hunter Safety Card.
NO, I do not want a 12 year old out by himself hunting with a gun. I don't know many parents who would.. However I might allow him out with a B-B gun or even a bow in the right circumstances at say 14 or 15.. and if I felt he or she was responsible enough and I was not far away..
While the law is a bit innocuous in its look, it is an attempt to extend control into the parents realm, and to introduce laws that are feel good and small measures. The next measure would be to ban kids from fishing by themselves without an adult before the age of 21. Dangerous hooks, and drowning, and knives ....
When I was 14 I used to ride my bike 15 miles to Chenoweth Park with my fishing pole to fish. My friends went with me. We rode down the middle of Taylorsville Road on the median from Hikes Point. This has HSUS and P E T A written all over it.
Jim Dicken

[CTFSHWHISKER]

regardless of age there will always be some that do not need to posess a forearm or hunt,i was hunting at the age of 6 with my h&r 410,at age 12 i went behind our house in the woods squirrell hunting to boundries set by my parents and yes it was illegal i guess but heck all of us kids did it we were hunting by ourselves at 14,we had good supervision and knew if we didn't abide we wouldn't get to go again.my granddad eat more squirrels in those few years than his whole life.any way if you aren't responsible enough at 16 i don't believe you will be at 21.i don't feel the kids of today grow up near as fast..i look back at think how much trouble my parents may have gotten into letting me do some things,if the right people knew,but they just did a good job raising me to appreciate things and felt i was a responsible person.
this post should be on the off topic or huntin board shouldn't it?

[biggw]

I'll play devil's advocate. Do you really think a kid is responsible enough to be out handling a firearm on his own? Would you send your 12 year old out into the woods with a 20 gauge and 3 of his buddies?

I got my first .22 rifle when I was 10 years old and was taught how to handle it safely...but honestly, I can't ever remember being out with it target shooting or squirrel hunting without adult supervision until I was older. Dad wouldn't let me. Kids are dumb.

I don't see the need for the law and really think there are bigger fish to fry in this country than trying to fix a problem that isn't really a problem...but taking whatever political need it serves out of the equation and looking at strictly the theory behind it...I'd probably support it if the age was 16 years old. If the state thinks you're not old enough to operate a motor vehicle, why would possessing/handling a firearm without adult supervision be okay? The proposed age of 21, however, is ridiculous. Like was said above, you can go to war at 18. I think that if you're old enough to vote and go to war that you ought to be able to buy beer and smokes and porn and whatever else at 18 too, but that's just me.

Parents should be with their kids if they're using guns up to a certain age. You're not passing on a sporting tradition if you're not there with the kid to teach them. Sending them out with a gun, unsupervised, isn't passing on much. A kid can't go buy a gun, so why should it be okay for them to posess/use one without supervision? I agree that parents ought to make these decisions, but let's face it - There are plenty of parents these days that aint worth a crap. Your kid could be out target shooting with one of their kids tomorrow. I don't know that a law would stop that, but it couldn't really hurt either. It could actually HELP pass on more of the sporting tradition when you think about it. Requiring more involvment from adults isn't necessarily a bad thing.

My two cents...

Well i will agree things are diff. now with kids--me i was raised to hunt at a very young age now my brother Ron. year younger i would not want to be with him and a gun at any age lol lmao