The deep runner lures, thus far were unimpressive for stripers running bait on top. that being said. i did have a good report for the same lure shallow model up the north fork for stripers when the water was clear for stripers. My two cents which means absolutely nothing the deep runner action seems to about the same as a bassin shad from bagley. That being said next summer, if it kills walleye trolling i will have crow in my mouth. It was stated on the package that it could be used for muskie, but they seemed also to be not intrested with several miles of reeling compared to the jointed little erine which also caught bass on Green. Again just my opinion