actually neither came off the fly. i was fishing with an old friend and he was floating and flying and i was fishing behind him with a shaky head. both fish ignored his fly and destroyed the shaky. this was one of the days with 70 degree temps in jan. wind was 30+ mph but oh man were the fish biting! these were the 2 best of the day - largemouth 4.5 and the smallie was 5# (weighed on my Boga Grip). we boated 8 in just over 3hrs. hoping to get back out on thurs or friday of this week if not to bone chilling cold or raining like today. thanks for the comments.