Dem Debate

[RICHYD4U]

You forgot to mention that Clinton pulled us out of a recession, revived the economy and cleared our neational deficit so that we had the only surpluss of money we have had in years. I believe it is a little different lying to the american people in matters concerning marriage fidelity than lying to congress and the american people and getting us into a war. Bush told us they had proof of Weapons of Mass destruction, so we went to War. Where are those?? I know there are other reasons we are there - however, this is what was used to convince the people that it was something we must do. Yes that is good we haven't been attacked since 9/11 - but any person in their right mind would have raised national security following those events, so I am not crediting Bush with "not being attacked," Give it a few years - Bush's legacy will be that he was the worst president in modern history - at least the last 100 years. Don't get me wrong - I am not anti-republican, we have had some outstanding republican presidents - Bush, however, is not one of them.

GOOD CONVERSATION.....
I HAVE TO SAY, IT WOULD BE EASY TO CLEAR OUR NATIONAL DEFICIT IF WE RAISED TAXES, REDUCED MILITARY AND DID NOTHING TO SECURE OUR NATION,(DOING NOTHING COSTS VERY LITTLE). AS FOR W.M.D.'S....EVERYONE RECEIVED THE SAME INTELLIGENCE THAT BUSH DID AND MAJORITY AGREED TO INVADE IRAQ. THE QUESTION IS NOW, DO WE CUT AND RUN (DEMS) OR STAY AND WIN (REPS). AS FOR, "ANYONE IN THE RIGHT MIND RAISING NATIONAL SECURITY AFTER 9/11".....YA....HOWEVER THE DEMS ARE AGAINST THE METHODS THAT HAVE DONE JUST THAT, IE: PATRIOT ACT, INTERREGATION OF CAPTURED TERRORISTS AND TAKING THE FIGHT TO THE TERRORISTS. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT HAVE KEPT US FREE FROM ANOTHER ATTACK ON U.S. SOIL......THINGS THAT A DEM PRESIDENT WOULD NOT HAVE DONE. I BELIEVE BUSH'S LEGACY WILL LOOK A LITTLE SOMETHING LIKE THIS....
A PRESIDENT WHO STOOD UP AGAINST OPPOSITION TO SECURE A NATION AFTER ONE OF IT'S LARGEST ATTACKS IN HISTORY. HAGD!

[MsgMills]

Clyde,
What branch were you in? How many years did you put in? Don't mean to get personal I'm just curious.
I spent 4 years in the Army and since I knew everything by the age of 22 I got out so I could make my millions! lol.....I enjoyed my time in and I surprised my Dad by not staying in since he was a 30 year Navy man. I have the utmost respect for men and women who have served and who serve today. It's a different life for sure....hagd

I retired after 20 years, 3 months and change in days. I made the rank of E-8, Master Sergeant. I served as an 11B Infantryman for 8 years starting out. Then Re-enlisted and went back through Advanced Individual Training ( AIT ) all over again in 1986 as an E-6, Staff Sergeant and became a 76Y3H (Supply Field) Once I made E-8 I became a 92A5H Expert Supply Logistican. Found out that paper pushin was my greatest skill in life. Just loved keeping records and paperwork, filling out forms to order supplies for the troops. I guess you could say I was the Radar O'Reilly from MASH, for my unit. If it was out there and some troop in my unit needed it to complete their mission. I went and did everything I could to obtain it.....

I might have stayed for 30 if a new Major had not of messed with me. He came in , asked what my job was, I replied that My job was to run the Supply Room and anything related with it. He said that will change...I popped off that no it wouldn't and he couldn't do it...He then pointed to his collar and said looks to me like I got the stuff here to do it. I said I wouldn't do it, he said what are you going to retire or something. I kept quiet, went home after work and talked to the wife and went back the next day and "RETIRED". Never saw the Major again after I turned in my Retirement paperwork. So I been a civilian since 1999. Sorry so long and winded and not trying to tackle the thread.....

[DJD]

Hey thanks for the reply....I was a 19K (M-1 Tank Crewman) signing up kept me from alot of trouble back in Orlando where I grew up. We used to have words with 11B's all the time! It was all in fun and had to do with the fact that we could cruise around at 50mph in those 60 ton tanks. See ya!
Don

[Devils Horse]

I completely disagree with you Col, and personally admire President Bush for sticking to his guns even when almost everyone has turned against him. Many of those who were all for the war now show they're too spineless to finish it. Seems the Dems and many others just want to cut and run, to heck with everything our soldiers and this country has put into this war. Hillary's even playing Bill's "depends on how you define the word it" games attempting to change the fact she backed the war right along with almost everyone else.

I also disagree the Dems will improve the education system (or anything else for that matter). It's been proven tenfold that throwing money at it ain't gonna fix it. I interpret your views to be the schools that perform the worst should get more money, and the ones that do better don't need it. Seems to me giving schools an incentive to excel is a better idea, but I have to admit I don't have the answers. I'm paying through the nose for my daughter to attend private Catholic school, that's how much faith I have in the public school system.

IMO if you want something to work, privatize it and watch it succeed. Put a government agency in charge of something and watch it go to crap.

Col, it sounds like you're a pretty young guy, plenty of time for you to cancel that Rolling Stone magazine subscription, and grow out of drinking that kool aid the Democrats are serving up. BTW, I intend no animosity toward you, we can agree to disagree. Thanks for being a teacher, I respect you for it.

[DJD]

DH,
I also send my daughter to Private School and it's more than a car payment for sure! Dang near what a house payment was many years ago!

[Dave Stewart]

I retired after 20 years, 3 months and change in days. I made the rank of E-8, Master Sergeant. I served as an 11B Infantryman for 8 years starting out. Then Re-enlisted and went back through Advanced Individual Training ( AIT ) all over again in 1986 as an E-6, Staff Sergeant and became a 76Y3H (Supply Field) Once I made E-8 I became a 92A5H Expert Supply Logistican. Found out that paper pushin was my greatest skill in life. Just loved keeping records and paperwork, filling out forms to order supplies for the troops. I guess you could say I was the Radar O'Reilly from MASH, for my unit. If it was out there and some troop in my unit needed it to complete their mission. I went and did everything I could to obtain it.....

I might have stayed for 30 if a new Major had not of messed with me. He came in , asked what my job was, I replied that My job was to run the Supply Room and anything related with it. He said that will change...I popped off that no it wouldn't and he couldn't do it...He then pointed to his collar and said looks to me like I got the stuff here to do it. I said I wouldn't do it, he said what are you going to retire or something. I kept quiet, went home after work and talked to the wife and went back the next day and "RETIRED". Never saw the Major again after I turned in my Retirement paperwork. So I been a civilian since 1999. Sorry so long and winded and not trying to tackle the thread.....

Clyde: Your story about the Major reminds me of a similiar incident in my career. I was at the time a Brigade level Operation SGT (11B50). Had a new Captain transferred into the section as Asst S-3. I gave him his welcome to "my shop" speech and he told me that under no uncertain terms that it was now "his" shop and my job would be to make coffee and answer phone calls...gave me orders to forward any phone call from the rank of Cpt or above directly to him so he could make any decisions that needed to be made. So, for the next week, I did just as he ordered me to do...I made coffee when it was needed and forwarded calls to him. The following week I answered the phone and it was the Commanding General. He ordered me to appear at his office immediately. As ordered I reported to the General's office. Upon arrival at his office I reported in to find the General, the G-3 and the Chief of Staff there waiting on me. Basically, the General asked what the HECK was going on in my office...wanted to know what the HECK I was doing over there. I told him I was doing exactly as I was ordered...making coffee and forwarding phone calls. The General excused me and I returned to my office. Enroute to my office I passed the Captain enroute to the General's office. A few minutes later the Captain returned, said absolutely nothing, dumped his stuff in a box and left. I never ever saw that Captain again during the rest of my career. I did however, get another phone call from the General later that day telling me to get my ASS back to work....lol.

[Devils Horse]

Yes indeed DJD. A painful gash in the wallet every month.

[Col Forbin]

Just a quick note on private schools. I have visited and toured a great deal of schools and was part of a state school improvement team a few years ago. I would stay very involved with your private school. I have seen some outstanding private schools, but have also seen some poorly ran private schools (these were very popular schools too). Private schools are not held to the same strict standards (student performance, assessments, teacher and administrative standards) as public schools, therefore they can appear better. Regardless of public or private - schools won't be successful without supporitive parents - so stay involved. DJD - I have spent time in all the private schools in Lex. and they are all good schools.

[RICHYD4U]

I completely disagree with you Col, and personally admire President Bush for sticking to his guns even when almost everyone has turned against him. Many of those who were all for the war now show they're too spineless to finish it. Seems the Dems and many others just want to cut and run, to heck with everything our soldiers and this country has put into this war. Hillary's even playing Bill's "depends on how you define the word it" games attempting to change the fact she backed the war right along with almost everyone else.

I also disagree the Dems will improve the education system (or anything else for that matter). It's been proven tenfold that throwing money at it ain't gonna fix it. I interpret your views to be the schools that perform the worst should get more money, and the ones that do better don't need it. Seems to me giving schools an incentive to excel is a better idea, but I have to admit I don't have the answers. I'm paying through the nose for my daughter to attend private Catholic school, that's how much faith I have in the public school system.

IMO if you want something to work, privatize it and watch it succeed. Put a government agency in charge of something and watch it go to crap.

Col, it sounds like you're a pretty young guy, plenty of time for you to cancel that Rolling Stone magazine subscription, and grow out of drinking that kool aid the Democrats are serving up. BTW, I intend no animosity toward you, we can agree to disagree. Thanks for being a teacher, I respect you for it.

AMEN TO EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID!!!
THAT DEM COOL AID MUST BE PRETTY TASTY....SO MANY ARE DRINKING IT NOW DAYS! ***************VOTE ROMNEY!!!****************DON'T LET THE DEMS TAKE THEIR COOL AID FACTORY TO THE WHITEHOUSE....THEY'LL TRY TO MAKE US ALL DRINK IT!!! AS I SEE IT, THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY*********VOTE ROMNEY!!!****************